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Granting access based on user location vidro 08-12-2005
Posted by vidro on August 12, 2005, 10:36 am
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I need to set security based on location and machine.
Scenario:

A user has an account on the Cooperate network and his laptop has account
on Corporate network.
While on the local area network, this user can access Information from
folder A,B,C on a server
When the user goes mobile with his laptop the user needs to be constrained
to only seeing info from folder A and B
If the same user goes to a computer that is not apart of the Corporate
network he needs to be constrained to only folder A.

The user, when not on the local network, will be using the Internet to
attaching to the Corporate network.
There are 2 methods to attach to information via the internet; either thru
VPN or a WEB server.
If the user is using his laptop it will most likely be VPN,
If he is on a different p.c. he will need to go to the Corporate WEB site.

At the same time I do not want to give users the ability access information
from a non-company p.c. threw a VPN connection.

Any help in implementing such a security scheme would be greatly appreciated.



Posted by Roger Abell on August 13, 2005, 7:15 am
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Well, the web access part is likely simple if you have a web
dev in house, as the client properties of the browsing client
will give you pretty much all you would need to tell if they
are on local network, vpn'd in, or using the public interface
on internet, and the server-side could then tune what is given
in the browser rendering as appropriate.
For the other access it sounded as if you need to distinguish
between only locally attached or vpn'd in. If you could isolate
the shares on to different servers and then for example use
IPsec on the server with the sensitive shares that should not
be available when vpn'd in so that server will not speack with
the IPs your vpn gives out . . .
There are likely other, and possibly more simple ways, but
given your sketch of requirements these are what first came
to mind. The alternatives will also vary based on info you
did not provide, such as what vpn solution is in use, do you
use IAS for auth, etc..

--
Roger Abell
Microsoft MVP (Windows Security)
MCSE (W2k3,W2k,Nt4) MCDBA
> I need to set security based on location and machine.
> Scenario:
>
> A user has an account on the Cooperate network and his laptop has account
> on Corporate network.
> While on the local area network, this user can access Information from
> folder A,B,C on a server
> When the user goes mobile with his laptop the user needs to be
constrained
> to only seeing info from folder A and B
> If the same user goes to a computer that is not apart of the Corporate
> network he needs to be constrained to only folder A.
>
> The user, when not on the local network, will be using the Internet to
> attaching to the Corporate network.
> There are 2 methods to attach to information via the internet; either thru
> VPN or a WEB server.
> If the user is using his laptop it will most likely be VPN,
> If he is on a different p.c. he will need to go to the Corporate WEB
site.
>
> At the same time I do not want to give users the ability access
information
> from a non-company p.c. threw a VPN connection.
>
> Any help in implementing such a security scheme would be greatly
appreciated.
>




Posted by vidro on August 18, 2005, 10:05 am
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Capture MAC for authentication?
but how to authenticate it and against what?

"Roger Abell" wrote:

> Well, the web access part is likely simple if you have a web
> dev in house, as the client properties of the browsing client
> will give you pretty much all you would need to tell if they
> are on local network, vpn'd in, or using the public interface
> on internet, and the server-side could then tune what is given
> in the browser rendering as appropriate.
> For the other access it sounded as if you need to distinguish
> between only locally attached or vpn'd in. If you could isolate
> the shares on to different servers and then for example use
> IPsec on the server with the sensitive shares that should not
> be available when vpn'd in so that server will not speack with
> the IPs your vpn gives out . . .
> There are likely other, and possibly more simple ways, but
> given your sketch of requirements these are what first came
> to mind. The alternatives will also vary based on info you
> did not provide, such as what vpn solution is in use, do you
> use IAS for auth, etc..
>
> --
> Roger Abell
> Microsoft MVP (Windows Security)
> MCSE (W2k3,W2k,Nt4) MCDBA
> > I need to set security based on location and machine.
> > Scenario:
> >
> > A user has an account on the Cooperate network and his laptop has account
> > on Corporate network.
> > While on the local area network, this user can access Information from
> > folder A,B,C on a server
> > When the user goes mobile with his laptop the user needs to be
> constrained
> > to only seeing info from folder A and B
> > If the same user goes to a computer that is not apart of the Corporate
> > network he needs to be constrained to only folder A.
> >
> > The user, when not on the local network, will be using the Internet to
> > attaching to the Corporate network.
> > There are 2 methods to attach to information via the internet; either thru
> > VPN or a WEB server.
> > If the user is using his laptop it will most likely be VPN,
> > If he is on a different p.c. he will need to go to the Corporate WEB
> site.
> >
> > At the same time I do not want to give users the ability access
> information
> > from a non-company p.c. threw a VPN connection.
> >
> > Any help in implementing such a security scheme would be greatly
> appreciated.
> >
>
>
>


Posted by Roger Abell on August 18, 2005, 8:22 pm
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> Capture MAC for authentication?
> but how to authenticate it and against what?
>

I realize you replied to my post, but you lost me?
From where did Capture MAC for authentication come into it?

--
Roger

> "Roger Abell" wrote:
>
> > Well, the web access part is likely simple if you have a web
> > dev in house, as the client properties of the browsing client
> > will give you pretty much all you would need to tell if they
> > are on local network, vpn'd in, or using the public interface
> > on internet, and the server-side could then tune what is given
> > in the browser rendering as appropriate.
> > For the other access it sounded as if you need to distinguish
> > between only locally attached or vpn'd in. If you could isolate
> > the shares on to different servers and then for example use
> > IPsec on the server with the sensitive shares that should not
> > be available when vpn'd in so that server will not speack with
> > the IPs your vpn gives out . . .
> > There are likely other, and possibly more simple ways, but
> > given your sketch of requirements these are what first came
> > to mind. The alternatives will also vary based on info you
> > did not provide, such as what vpn solution is in use, do you
> > use IAS for auth, etc..
> >
> > --
> > Roger Abell
> > Microsoft MVP (Windows Security)
> > MCSE (W2k3,W2k,Nt4) MCDBA
> > > I need to set security based on location and machine.
> > > Scenario:
> > >
> > > A user has an account on the Cooperate network and his laptop has
account
> > > on Corporate network.
> > > While on the local area network, this user can access Information from
> > > folder A,B,C on a server
> > > When the user goes mobile with his laptop the user needs to be
> > constrained
> > > to only seeing info from folder A and B
> > > If the same user goes to a computer that is not apart of the Corporate
> > > network he needs to be constrained to only folder A.
> > >
> > > The user, when not on the local network, will be using the Internet to
> > > attaching to the Corporate network.
> > > There are 2 methods to attach to information via the internet; either
thru
> > > VPN or a WEB server.
> > > If the user is using his laptop it will most likely be VPN,
> > > If he is on a different p.c. he will need to go to the Corporate WEB
> > site.
> > >
> > > At the same time I do not want to give users the ability access
> > information
> > > from a non-company p.c. threw a VPN connection.
> > >
> > > Any help in implementing such a security scheme would be greatly
> > appreciated.
> > >
> >
> >
> >




Posted by vidro on August 19, 2005, 8:46 am
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You're right. I think I got side tracked with machine security, trying to
figure out a way of stopping LAN users from going home to their home p.c. and
creating a VPN account even if they had authority to VPN with a company
laptop.

To the original issue; Logon accounts being the same, how does the server
identify a local computer accessing information versus a VPN connection
access information?



"Roger Abell" wrote:

> > Capture MAC for authentication?
> > but how to authenticate it and against what?
> >
>
> I realize you replied to my post, but you lost me?
> From where did Capture MAC for authentication come into it?
>
> --
> Roger
>
> > "Roger Abell" wrote:
> >
> > > Well, the web access part is likely simple if you have a web
> > > dev in house, as the client properties of the browsing client
> > > will give you pretty much all you would need to tell if they
> > > are on local network, vpn'd in, or using the public interface
> > > on internet, and the server-side could then tune what is given
> > > in the browser rendering as appropriate.
> > > For the other access it sounded as if you need to distinguish
> > > between only locally attached or vpn'd in. If you could isolate
> > > the shares on to different servers and then for example use
> > > IPsec on the server with the sensitive shares that should not
> > > be available when vpn'd in so that server will not speack with
> > > the IPs your vpn gives out . . .
> > > There are likely other, and possibly more simple ways, but
> > > given your sketch of requirements these are what first came
> > > to mind. The alternatives will also vary based on info you
> > > did not provide, such as what vpn solution is in use, do you
> > > use IAS for auth, etc..
> > >
> > > --
> > > Roger Abell
> > > Microsoft MVP (Windows Security)
> > > MCSE (W2k3,W2k,Nt4) MCDBA
> > > > I need to set security based on location and machine.
> > > > Scenario:
> > > >
> > > > A user has an account on the Cooperate network and his laptop has
> account
> > > > on Corporate network.
> > > > While on the local area network, this user can access Information from
> > > > folder A,B,C on a server
> > > > When the user goes mobile with his laptop the user needs to be
> > > constrained
> > > > to only seeing info from folder A and B
> > > > If the same user goes to a computer that is not apart of the Corporate
> > > > network he needs to be constrained to only folder A.
> > > >
> > > > The user, when not on the local network, will be using the Internet to
> > > > attaching to the Corporate network.
> > > > There are 2 methods to attach to information via the internet; either
> thru
> > > > VPN or a WEB server.
> > > > If the user is using his laptop it will most likely be VPN,
> > > > If he is on a different p.c. he will need to go to the Corporate WEB
> > > site.
> > > >
> > > > At the same time I do not want to give users the ability access
> > > information
> > > > from a non-company p.c. threw a VPN connection.
> > > >
> > > > Any help in implementing such a security scheme would be greatly
> > > appreciated.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>


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