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Frontpage flash - crawling Saya 05-31-2008
Posted by Saya on May 31, 2008, 1:49 pm
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Hi,

Our company has unfortunetely choosen to have a flash on the frontpage
that links into the site. Now I understand that this means the search
engine crawling mechanism will not be able to access the site and
crawl it because of the flash containing the links.

Could we get around the problem by having a div containing the same
links that the flash has, with display blok set to none so the content
of the div is not displayed to the user, but search engines should be
able to pick the links up from the div and crawl the site ?

Is this legal so to speak. don't want end up suggesting something that
will get the site banned :-).

Any hints will be greatly appreciated.

Regards
Saya

Posted by Adrienne Boswell on May 31, 2008, 2:27 pm
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> Hi,
>
> Our company has unfortunetely choosen to have a flash on the frontpage
> that links into the site. Now I understand that this means the search
> engine crawling mechanism will not be able to access the site and
> crawl it because of the flash containing the links.
>
> Could we get around the problem by having a div containing the same
> links that the flash has, with display blok set to none so the content
> of the div is not displayed to the user, but search engines should be
> able to pick the links up from the div and crawl the site ?
>
> Is this legal so to speak. don't want end up suggesting something that
> will get the site banned :-).
>
> Any hints will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Regards
> Saya
>

What you really want to do is look up flash satay. Using the OBJECT
element, you can nest content that is not accessible to users without
flash, eg:

<object>
<img src="static image">
<ul>
<li><a href="links">Links</a></li>
</ul>
</object>

You will have to look up the relavent markup to do this.

You do not want to set an element to display none because it will not be
accessible either. IMHO display none should only be used for printing,
eg.
@media print{
div#menu
}


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Posted by Big Bill on May 31, 2008, 2:56 pm
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wrote:
>What you really want to do is look up flash satay. Using the OBJECT
>element, you can nest content that is not accessible to users without
>flash, eg:
>
><object>
><img src="static image">
><ul>
><li><a href="links">Links</a></li>
></ul>
></object>
>
>You will have to look up the relavent markup to do this.
>
>You do not want to set an element to display none because it will not be
>accessible either. IMHO display none should only be used for printing,
>eg.
>@media print{
>div#menu
>}

Now you're all reminded why, when the last trump sounds, I've declared
dibs on Adrienne!

I did try this method with Flash years ago and it can be done too.
Takes ages and ages though.

BB :-)
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Posted by John Bokma on June 4, 2008, 11:10 pm
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Hi Adrienne,

Did you ever get my invite for the water cooler? If yes, sorry for this
spam. If not, and you're interested in the AISE forum, email me, thanks.


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Posted by Big Bill on May 31, 2008, 2:56 pm
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wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Our company has unfortunetely choosen to have a flash on the frontpage
>that links into the site. Now I understand that this means the search
>engine crawling mechanism will not be able to access the site and
>crawl it because of the flash containing the links.

Yup.

>Could we get around the problem by having a div containing the same
>links that the flash has, with display blok set to none so the content
>of the div is not displayed to the user, but search engines should be
>able to pick the links up from the div and crawl the site ?

Make them visible. Put them in small fonts in the footer of the page.
The engines will see them there, they will also see that they are
freely visible so you won't get penalised for any kind of supposed
subterfuge, but your site visitors won't know they're there.

>Is this legal so to speak. don't want end up suggesting something that
>will get the site banned :-).
>
>Any hints will be greatly appreciated.

There you go. That's what I'd do. Have you got an <EMBED> tag in the
flash anywhere? Try sticking the links and any texts from the flash in
the <NOEMBED> too, that won't hurt either. Just don't get carried away
and put a load of extra stuff in there.

BB
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