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Posted by Jonathan N. Little on April 23, 2008, 2:51 pm
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 Bergamot wrote:

> That's not really any different from my preprocessor includes, except
> they're not php.
>
And you don't have to pre-process...

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Posted by Chris Morris on April 24, 2008, 4:08 am
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> Chris Morris wrote:
> > That said, if you're only doing a bit of templating to replace
> > frames, an offline preprocessor is probably a better way to make
> > the site. PHP would be like using a chainsaw to chop through a
> > twig, and about as safe.
>
> If we have a 1/2 dozen pages maybe, but every time you make a change
> an edit your have to re-preprocess and upload the entire site gets old
> really fast.

Perhaps. The 'make' command comes in very useful. Set up the
dependencies, only rebuild the changed pages, and then automatically
move the new pages into place. The largest site I've maintained by
preprocessing had a few hundred pages and was easy enough to do.

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Posted by Petr Vileta on April 23, 2008, 8:18 pm
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Jonathan N. Little wrote:
> Again with my favorite
> analogy, why would a lumberjack cling to his ax after the development
> of the chainsaw?
I don't know any lumberjack and don't know why he prefer to use ax instead of
chainsaw :-) Maybe he want to have well-developed body, maybe he don't like
roaring noise, maybe he don't have money to buy gasoline.
But back to IT world. Maybe author of question not have access to use server
side solution, maybe he not have knowledge to do it, maybe a pages are too
simple to solve it in other way then frames.
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Posted by Jonathan N. Little on April 23, 2008, 9:56 pm
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Petr Vileta wrote:

> But back to IT world. Maybe author of question not have access to use
> server side solution,

Server side was rare and expensive in 1990s not common and cheap

> maybe he not have knowledge to do it,

Tutorials up the "wazoo"


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=php+tutorials&btnG=Search
php tutorials - Google Search

> maybe a
> pages are too simple to solve it in other way then frames.

<frameset cols = "25%,*">
<frame src ="menu.htm" />
<frame src ="content.htm" />
</frameset>

vs

<?php include_once('menu.htm'); ?>
<div id="content">
<p>This page's content....






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Jonathan
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Posted by dorayme on April 24, 2008, 12:56 am
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> Petr Vileta wrote:
>
> > But back to IT world. Maybe author of question not have access to use
> > server side solution,
>
> Server side was rare and expensive in 1990s not common and cheap
>
> > maybe he not have knowledge to do it,
>
> Tutorials up the "wazoo"
>
>
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=php+tutorials&btnG=Search
> php tutorials - Google Search
>
> > maybe a
> > pages are too simple to solve it in other way then frames.
>
> <frameset cols = "25%,*">
> <frame src ="menu.htm" />
> <frame src ="content.htm" />
> </frameset>
>
> vs
>
> <?php include_once('menu.htm'); ?>
> <div id="content">
> <p>This page's content....

I just love how folks fail to address the fact that frames keeps the
menu from scrolling away in a natural manner. You can't simply say use
includes and walk away!

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dorayme

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