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Frames -- Disable/Enable Menus Deepan HTML 04-21-2008
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Posted by dorayme on April 24, 2008, 8:10 pm
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> Petr Vileta wrote:
> > Bergamot wrote:
> >>
> >> If you asked how you could shoot yourself in the foot, don't you think
> >> we'd rather talk you out of it than provide step-by-step instructions?
> >>
> > Maybe my English is too bad but I don't understand what you wanted to say.
>
> Sorry. "Shoot yourself in the foot" means you are doing something bad to
> yourself.
>
> The point is that this is a discussion group, not a help desk. If
> somebody posts a question about how to do something that we consider a
> bad practice, most of the regular posters here would rather tell them
> why it is bad and show them better solutions instead of giving the
> answer they wanted to hear.
>
> > Somebody asked a solution for frame style pages and I wrote my ideas.
>
> We don't want to encourage frames. There are almost always better ways
> to do whatever the poster wants to do.

Telling someone how to solve a problem in frames is not encouraging
frames. You think so because of a hysterical view of the matter (that it
is like advising someone how best to shoot oneself in the foot but not
to do too much damage).

And the other bit is particularly weak, there are always better ways to
do most things.

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dorayme

Posted by rf on April 24, 2008, 8:22 pm
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> And the other bit is particularly weak, there are always better ways
> to do most things.

In the case of frames it is not just a better way, it is a way that
actually works.


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Posted by dorayme on April 24, 2008, 9:31 pm
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> In the case of frames it is not just a better way, it is a way that
> actually works.

In the case of frames, many things work *perfectly* well. And when
something works perfectly well it is an actual perfection, not some
chimera.

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dorayme

Posted by rf on April 24, 2008, 9:56 pm
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AB4302.11311525042008@web.aioe.org:

>
>> In the case of frames it is not just a better way, it is a way that
>> actually works.
>
> In the case of frames, many things work *perfectly* well. And when
> something works perfectly well it is an actual perfection, not some
> chimera.

Bookmarking does not work *perfectly* well.
Search engine bots do not work *perfectly* well.

I would rather have pages that are found correctly in the search engines
and which my viewers can return to easily when they wish. Framed pages
don't support either.

Here is a random page from one of the eighteen million pages out there that
contain the phrase "your browser does not support frames":

http://rmc.library.cornell.edu/ornithology/exhibit/title.htm

Where is their navigation?

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Posted by dorayme on April 24, 2008, 10:19 pm
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> AB4302.11311525042008@web.aioe.org:
>
> >
> >> In the case of frames it is not just a better way, it is a way that
> >> actually works.
> >
> > In the case of frames, many things work *perfectly* well. And when
> > something works perfectly well it is an actual perfection, not some
> > chimera.
>
> Bookmarking does not work *perfectly* well.

You jump straight into a misunderstanding like a moth. You are all
brainwashed earthlings (have you and Jonathan and Bergamot got your arms
stretched out in front of you right now and walking in a straight line?)
<g>

I said many things work perfectly well. So you take this as an
opportunity to say what does *not* work well! Good one, mate!

You do this, as do others, because the issue of being less hysterical
about frames is simply not on your radar. How, you think, can a sensible
person nowadays not wholly detest and despise and want their total
annihilation? If you send me $A10 I will send you out some literature
from my organization Framepeace which is dedicated to protecting the few
endangered framed sites around.

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dorayme

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