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Empty Forum and Advertising Prejudices Prisoner at War 05-11-2008
Posted by Prisoner at War on May 11, 2008, 12:01 am
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Well, speaking of SBI!...two of the things I've learned from them are
"empty forum prejudice" and "advertising prejudice"...apparently, an
empty forum turns off visitors such that they never visit the site
again -- true?

SBI! recommends starting a forum -- if necessary in the first place --
only when there are at least fifty visitors a day; preferably one
hundred...but if empty forum prejudice does exist, could it be
successfully counters -- outright neutralized -- by good original
content??

And advertising prejudice...apparently there are people who stop
visiting a site when ads go up...nothing outrageous, now, like
constant pop-ups and fly-overs and animated banners...but apparently
there are people who just don't like any advertising at all -- and
these directory editors are among them! Is that true, too?? Why
should people have no problem (or very little) with "old media" like
newspapers being supported by advertising but have such a problem with
websites that do the same, even those they had previously enjoyed,
such that they never visit again??


As always, many thanks for all your time and help!

Posted by Jerry Stuckle on May 11, 2008, 9:49 am
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Prisoner at War wrote:
> Well, speaking of SBI!...two of the things I've learned from them are
> "empty forum prejudice" and "advertising prejudice"...apparently, an
> empty forum turns off visitors such that they never visit the site
> again -- true?
>
> SBI! recommends starting a forum -- if necessary in the first place --
> only when there are at least fifty visitors a day; preferably one
> hundred...but if empty forum prejudice does exist, could it be
> successfully counters -- outright neutralized -- by good original
> content??
>
> And advertising prejudice...apparently there are people who stop
> visiting a site when ads go up...nothing outrageous, now, like
> constant pop-ups and fly-overs and animated banners...but apparently
> there are people who just don't like any advertising at all -- and
> these directory editors are among them! Is that true, too?? Why
> should people have no problem (or very little) with "old media" like
> newspapers being supported by advertising but have such a problem with
> websites that do the same, even those they had previously enjoyed,
> such that they never visit again??
>
>
> As always, many thanks for all your time and help!
>

I'd suggest you stop cross posting to so many newsgroups. If you want
to discuss this, pick one or two whcih are appropriate and limit
yourself to those.

Otherwise people are going to stop answering you.

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Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
jstucklex@attglobal.net
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Posted by Prisoner at War on May 11, 2008, 11:34 am
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Thanks for the suggestion, but I don't understand "cross-posting
prejudice" -- I mean, my question is relevant to the newsgroups cross-
posted; I'm not asking about visitor psychology in rec.europe.travel
or something! Am I supposed to post the same message to every
relevant newsgroup instead?? Just how does relevant cross-posting
detract from anyone's experience of usenet?


>
>
> I'd suggest you stop cross posting to so many newsgroups. If you want
> to discuss this, pick one or two whcih are appropriate and limit
> yourself to those.
>
> Otherwise people are going to stop answering you.
>
> --
> ==================
> Remove the "x" from my email address
> Jerry Stuckle
> JDS Computer Training Corp.
> jstuck...@attglobal.net
> ==================


Posted by Rob McAninch on May 11, 2008, 3:22 pm
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>
>>
>>
>> I'd suggest you stop cross posting to so many newsgroups. If you want
>> to discuss this, pick one or two whcih are appropriate and limit
>> yourself to those.
>>
>> Otherwise people are going to stop answering you.
>
> Thanks for the suggestion, but I don't understand "cross-posting
> prejudice" -- I mean, my question is relevant to the newsgroups cross-
> posted; I'm not asking about visitor psychology in rec.europe.travel
> or something! Am I supposed to post the same message to every
> relevant newsgroup instead?? Just how does relevant cross-posting
> detract from anyone's experience of usenet?

No multiposting would typically be worse. Just pick a group or two,
look for feedback. Incorporate it, then consider posting in another
group to get a different angle.

Crossposting to too may groups, often gets your messages filtered by
either news servers or readers (as it is sign of spam). Or may lead to
many similar comments as a larger number of people are replying at
about the same time.

--
Rob McAninch
http://rock13.com/


Posted by Prisoner at War on May 11, 2008, 6:19 pm
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>
>
> No multiposting would typically be worse. Just pick a group or two,
> look for feedback. Incorporate it, then consider posting in another
> group to get a different angle.

Thanks, maybe I'll try to limit myself to only two or three groups in
the future, but I just thought that my question would be relevant to
the newsgroups I'd chosen.

> Crossposting to too may groups, often gets your messages filtered by
> either news servers or readers (as it is sign of spam). Or may lead to
> many similar comments as a larger number of people are replying at
> about the same time.

Yes, "duplicate" comments could be an issue, but it seems fairly
minor. As for spam, well, someone could easily just spam to one
newsgroup at a time, too, to get around filters and whatnot. I don't
see why someone like me should be "penalized" for that...that's like
saying everyone bearing a U.S. passport ought to be inconvenienced due
the actions of others who also bear U.S. passports.

I'm sorry, I'm just having a hard time wrapping my head around usenet
"rules" when this whole internet/web/usenet thinggy seems essentially
a nicely "wild" thing to me....

> --
> Rob McAninchhttp://rock13.com/


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