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Posted by Cowan Services on December 4, 2005, 7:32 pm
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My apologies if this has been covered before, but I was unable to download
messages before 11/23/05.
I am trying to bring some HTML pages w/embedded .WMV files into W3C
compliance. Right now, they use the <embed> tag and are therefore not
compliant. I've found a couple of work arounds for Flash files, but none for
.WMV files. The client does not want to files to be transferred to a
different format. Does anyone have the compliant code or suggestions? I
really appreciate it.
Lisa Cowan
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Posted by Andy Dingley on December 4, 2005, 11:01 pm
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wrote:
>I am trying to bring some HTML pages w/embedded .WMV files into W3C
>compliance. Right now, they use the <embed> tag and are therefore not
>compliant.
IMHO, stick with <embed>
Now I'm no expert here - if anyone can improve my knowledge, I'd be
_delighted_ to hear about it. But last time I asked and searched I found
a lot of advice on Flash and nothing about video.
The problem with <object> (AFAIK) is that it's too centred around the
player _application_ and doesn't have any obvious way to indicate
"here's a WMV document, deal with it according to local configuration".
OTOH, <embed> works fine in this way. Now for a proprietary format like
Flash, <object> is great because you have a good indication what's going
to be dealing with it and it's the maker's problem to keep the player
applications working and compatible. Video and music standards though
are just too diverse in their players for this to be viable. Besides
which, why should I force a particular player onto a user who has set
their default to be another?
<embed> is simple and it works. It offers an advantage that I can't
replicate with <object>. Given the general behaviour for web standards,
<embed> is going to keep working for the forseeable future with any
browser agent that isn't just a rigid validator. So for my purposes,
<embed> is on my short list of permitted fragments where I deliberately
sacrifice validity.
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Posted by Philip Ronan on December 4, 2005, 11:27 pm
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"Andy Dingley" wrote:
> wrote:
>
>> I am trying to bring some HTML pages w/embedded .WMV files into W3C
>> compliance. Right now, they use the <embed> tag and are therefore not
>> compliant.
>
> IMHO, stick with <embed>
I agree. WMV is a Windows-only media format, so you're screwed anyway.
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Posted by Shawn K. Quinn on December 5, 2005, 9:41 am
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posted at 2005-12-04T23:27
> "Andy Dingley" wrote:
>> wrote:
>>> I am trying to bring some HTML pages w/embedded .WMV files into W3C
>>> compliance. Right now, they use the <embed> tag and are therefore not
>>> compliant.
>> IMHO, stick with <embed>
> I agree. WMV is a Windows-only media format, so you're screwed anyway.
If you want to write valid HTML, <embed> isn't an option.
I agree that Windows Media Video is not appropriate for use on the World
Wide Web where devices besides PCs running Windows are in use; MPEG 1, Ogg
Theora, and possibly MPEG 2- or MPEG 4-based formats are probably a
better bet. However, so far at least version 7 of WMV is playable with a
program released under the GPL for GNU/Linux and other Unix-likes
(mplayer).
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Posted by Andy Dingley on December 5, 2005, 8:43 pm
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On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 09:41:44 -0600, "Shawn K. Quinn"
>If you want to write valid HTML, <embed> isn't an option.
So what should one use instead ?
Any video format - doesn't have to be WMV
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