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Defining the resolution of a site mehdi.louizi 09-13-2005
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Posted by mehdi.louizi on September 13, 2005, 5:34 am
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Hello, I'm beginning to create a web site but I'm facing a big problem
for which I didn't find any solution!! I'm using the 1024*768 screen
resolution, and when I change it to 800*600 the page is visible but
with the scroll bars. So the design is no longer the same..
Same thing if I work on a 800*600 resolution, the page is too ugly to
bee seen..
I don't want to work with frames. Concerning the creation of tables
with fixed width (100 %), it doesn't work when I changed the
resolution. And the problem is that I couldn't put pictures on the
screen extremities(so I used frames (In Dreamweaver MX...))
Thanks for helping...


Posted by Jim Moe on September 13, 2005, 10:22 am
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mehdi.louizi@gmail.com wrote:
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> I don't want to work with frames. Concerning the creation of tables
> with fixed width (100 %), it doesn't work when I changed the
> resolution. And the problem is that I couldn't put pictures on the
> screen extremities(so I used frames (In Dreamweaver MX...))
>
Don't use tables for layout.
Don't use a fixed width design.
Somewhere on the macromedia site are articles that discuss dreamweaver
design techniques that produce both tableless and fluid pages.

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Posted by Gérard Talbot on September 13, 2005, 1:42 pm
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Jim Moe a écrit :
> mehdi.louizi@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> I don't want to work with frames. Concerning the creation of tables
>> with fixed width (100 %), it doesn't work when I changed the
>> resolution. And the problem is that I couldn't put pictures on the
>> screen extremities(so I used frames (In Dreamweaver MX...))
>>
> Don't use tables for layout.
> Don't use a fixed width design.
> Somewhere on the macromedia site are articles that discuss dreamweaver
> design techniques that produce both tableless and fluid pages.
>


Tableless layout with Dreamweaver. DreamWeaver has a 6 parts tutorial on
how to use CSS template instead of table design:
"tables do a pretty lousy job of page construction. Among their
shortcomings is the implied bias of the code towards presentation rather
than structure, the necessity to nest tables in order to achieve the
most basic of layouts, and enough redundant bandwidth-hogging tags to
feed a large family of tag eating monsters for literally a month."
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/dreamweaver/articles/tableless_layout.html

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Posted by dingbat on September 14, 2005, 6:23 am
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Jim Moe wrote:

> Don't use a fixed width design.

There's one very good reason for a fixed width design (why I do it
anyway).

I get _paid_ to do fixed-width designs. I don't get paid to do fluid
designs.

In my caped and masked nightime alter ego (there are pictures on
flickr) I write proper semantically kosher table-free sites with nice
fluid designs. I also eat quiche and code Pascal. They don't work
desperately well on IE, but then I just don't care -- these users need
to learn anyway.

Then I run out of money, so I go and get a day job. Here I build site
back-ends to implement some Mac-wielding barrista's paper-based
static-pixie dezyn. Everything is fixed width (and ideally fixed
height) because that's not just what the want, it's what they _demand_.
Then they sprinkle it with ads until it's unreadable, then turn the
hard-coded text size down until no-one bothers reading the site any
more.

> Don't use tables for layout.

What do you do when your boss insists on pixel perfect rendering on
Mac/IE and the aforementioned barrista then insists on switching to
tables ?


Posted by Stewart Gordon on September 14, 2005, 4:47 pm
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dingbat@codesmiths.com wrote:
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> What do you do when your boss insists on pixel perfect rendering on
> Mac/IE and the aforementioned barrista then insists on switching to
> tables ?

Tell your boss to get a clue and stop insisting on the non-existent.

Stewart.

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