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Data from damaged machine Guy Kornetzki 11-03-2005
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Posted by Peter T. Breuer on November 4, 2005, 8:11 pm
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> Well I got the enclosure, popped-in the HD, connected it to the other laptop
> and.......nothing.

You need a driver first! Check that you have one.


> Any ideas? Does this mean the HD may be faulty? How can I check this at home
> without a PC lab?

Swap with a different HD, or controller.

Peter


Posted by Guy Kornetzki on November 4, 2005, 7:41 pm
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Hi Peter: what driver do I need?! Thought it was plug'n'play through the USB
port? What do you mean by "swap controller", you mean USB port? Have tried
connecting enclosure to two separate laptops and the HD wasn't recognised by
any of them.

Hi BurgerMan: unless I misunderstood you, seems like you may have
misunderstood me: am using a laptop NOT a desktop to access the HD. Have
taken the 2.5" HD from the damaged laptop and inserted it into a USB2.0
External Enclosure (making it into an external HD with a USB2.0 connection).
Can't see what you mean than by your instructions.

What do you think everyone?

Thanks,

~ ~ ~
GuyKo.

> > Well I got the enclosure, popped-in the HD, connected it to the other
laptop
> > and.......nothing.
>
> You need a driver first! Check that you have one.
>
>
> > Any ideas? Does this mean the HD may be faulty? How can I check this at
home
> > without a PC lab?
>
> Swap with a different HD, or controller.
>
> Peter




Posted by TheBurgerMan on November 4, 2005, 7:49 pm
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My instructions don't involve a second laptop at all. From your note, you
are not even getting the USB device detected pop-up which could indicate
several problems most of which point to USB problems, not necessarily the
hard drive itself.

Like Barry said before, your best bet is to place the drive directly onto
the IDE channel. The best way to do that (and copy the files off) is to
place it in another machine as a second hard drive.

That's what my instructions indicated. If you don't have the tools to do
that (desktop, 2.5 to 3.5 convertor, etc) then you will have to get the USB
working properly.
--
Thanks,
TheBurgerMan
at
gmail.com
--
> Hi Peter: what driver do I need?! Thought it was plug'n'play through the
> USB
> port? What do you mean by "swap controller", you mean USB port? Have tried
> connecting enclosure to two separate laptops and the HD wasn't recognised
> by
> any of them.
>
> Hi BurgerMan: unless I misunderstood you, seems like you may have
> misunderstood me: am using a laptop NOT a desktop to access the HD. Have
> taken the 2.5" HD from the damaged laptop and inserted it into a USB2.0
> External Enclosure (making it into an external HD with a USB2.0
> connection).
> Can't see what you mean than by your instructions.
>
> What do you think everyone?
>
> Thanks,
>
> ~ ~ ~
> GuyKo.
>
>> > Well I got the enclosure, popped-in the HD, connected it to the other
> laptop
>> > and.......nothing.
>>
>> You need a driver first! Check that you have one.
>>
>>
>> > Any ideas? Does this mean the HD may be faulty? How can I check this at
> home
>> > without a PC lab?
>>
>> Swap with a different HD, or controller.
>>
>> Peter
>
>




Posted by Guy Kornetzki on November 5, 2005, 12:05 am
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Wow, first of all let me say it's great to know there are people out there
who are willing to lend a hand in such an unselfish way - thanks everyone.

To satisfy Lars' (justified) thirst for knowledge :) here are more details
about the case:

> HD brand is Fujitsu I believe
> I don't know the spin speed but it was taken out of a rather old Gericom
laptop
>Guess USB enclosure receives power from USB ports using two plugs (as Barry
said; I had no idea why there are two plugs!)
>Enclosure was plugged into two different laptops: a Dell and a Fujitsu
Siemens.
>Both laptops are running Win XP (Fuji runs Home version and Dell runs Prof)
>Both laptops have had no problems with USB devices
>Both laptops enjoy USB2.0

Ok, seems like there are two things to check now: 1) the enclosure 2) the
HD. As the enclosure is brand new, I doubt it's faulty (although it is
possible of course), so the next step is indeed to test the HD itself. In
the current situation I can only do this by physically connecting the HD to
a laptop's IDE. If needs be I would be inclined to follow Barry's suggestion
of running the HD inside one of the "good" laptops as a HD, whilst using a
recovery CD as backup when things go crazy.

As it's quite late in the UK now, I'll probably to this tomorrow; also, need
to update my friend, the owner of this HD, and get his permission to dive
deeper. So if there are any further thoughts/advices until than they are
very welcome.

Once again, I really appreciate it everyone.

~ ~ ~
GuyKo.

> My instructions don't involve a second laptop at all. From your note, you
> are not even getting the USB device detected pop-up which could indicate
> several problems most of which point to USB problems, not necessarily the
> hard drive itself.
>
> Like Barry said before, your best bet is to place the drive directly onto
> the IDE channel. The best way to do that (and copy the files off) is to
> place it in another machine as a second hard drive.
>
> That's what my instructions indicated. If you don't have the tools to do
> that (desktop, 2.5 to 3.5 convertor, etc) then you will have to get the
USB
> working properly.
> --
> Thanks,
> TheBurgerMan
> at
> gmail.com
> --
> > Hi Peter: what driver do I need?! Thought it was plug'n'play through the
> > USB
> > port? What do you mean by "swap controller", you mean USB port? Have
tried
> > connecting enclosure to two separate laptops and the HD wasn't
recognised
> > by
> > any of them.
> >
> > Hi BurgerMan: unless I misunderstood you, seems like you may have
> > misunderstood me: am using a laptop NOT a desktop to access the HD. Have
> > taken the 2.5" HD from the damaged laptop and inserted it into a USB2.0
> > External Enclosure (making it into an external HD with a USB2.0
> > connection).
> > Can't see what you mean than by your instructions.
> >
> > What do you think everyone?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > ~ ~ ~
> > GuyKo.
> >
> >> > Well I got the enclosure, popped-in the HD, connected it to the other
> > laptop
> >> > and.......nothing.
> >>
> >> You need a driver first! Check that you have one.
> >>
> >>
> >> > Any ideas? Does this mean the HD may be faulty? How can I check this
at
> > home
> >> > without a PC lab?
> >>
> >> Swap with a different HD, or controller.
> >>
> >> Peter
> >
> >
>
>




Posted by Guy Kornetzki on November 5, 2005, 12:09 am
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Sorry, forgot to mention that I CAN hear HD spinning inside the enclosure,
so I guess this means it's at least powering up and working.

More soon.

~ ~ ~
GuyKo.

> Wow, first of all let me say it's great to know there are people out there
> who are willing to lend a hand in such an unselfish way - thanks everyone.
>
> To satisfy Lars' (justified) thirst for knowledge :) here are more details
> about the case:
>
> > HD brand is Fujitsu I believe
> > I don't know the spin speed but it was taken out of a rather old Gericom
> laptop
> >Guess USB enclosure receives power from USB ports using two plugs (as
Barry
> said; I had no idea why there are two plugs!)
> >Enclosure was plugged into two different laptops: a Dell and a Fujitsu
> Siemens.
> >Both laptops are running Win XP (Fuji runs Home version and Dell runs
Prof)
> >Both laptops have had no problems with USB devices
> >Both laptops enjoy USB2.0
>
> Ok, seems like there are two things to check now: 1) the enclosure 2) the
> HD. As the enclosure is brand new, I doubt it's faulty (although it is
> possible of course), so the next step is indeed to test the HD itself. In
> the current situation I can only do this by physically connecting the HD
to
> a laptop's IDE. If needs be I would be inclined to follow Barry's
suggestion
> of running the HD inside one of the "good" laptops as a HD, whilst using a
> recovery CD as backup when things go crazy.
>
> As it's quite late in the UK now, I'll probably to this tomorrow; also,
need
> to update my friend, the owner of this HD, and get his permission to dive
> deeper. So if there are any further thoughts/advices until than they are
> very welcome.
>
> Once again, I really appreciate it everyone.
>
> ~ ~ ~
> GuyKo.
>
> > My instructions don't involve a second laptop at all. From your note,
you
> > are not even getting the USB device detected pop-up which could indicate
> > several problems most of which point to USB problems, not necessarily
the
> > hard drive itself.
> >
> > Like Barry said before, your best bet is to place the drive directly
onto
> > the IDE channel. The best way to do that (and copy the files off) is to
> > place it in another machine as a second hard drive.
> >
> > That's what my instructions indicated. If you don't have the tools to
do
> > that (desktop, 2.5 to 3.5 convertor, etc) then you will have to get the
> USB
> > working properly.
> > --
> > Thanks,
> > TheBurgerMan
> > at
> > gmail.com
> > --
> > > Hi Peter: what driver do I need?! Thought it was plug'n'play through
the
> > > USB
> > > port? What do you mean by "swap controller", you mean USB port? Have
> tried
> > > connecting enclosure to two separate laptops and the HD wasn't
> recognised
> > > by
> > > any of them.
> > >
> > > Hi BurgerMan: unless I misunderstood you, seems like you may have
> > > misunderstood me: am using a laptop NOT a desktop to access the HD.
Have
> > > taken the 2.5" HD from the damaged laptop and inserted it into a
USB2.0
> > > External Enclosure (making it into an external HD with a USB2.0
> > > connection).
> > > Can't see what you mean than by your instructions.
> > >
> > > What do you think everyone?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > ~ ~ ~
> > > GuyKo.
> > >
> > >> > Well I got the enclosure, popped-in the HD, connected it to the
other
> > > laptop
> > >> > and.......nothing.
> > >>
> > >> You need a driver first! Check that you have one.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Any ideas? Does this mean the HD may be faulty? How can I check
this
> at
> > > home
> > >> > without a PC lab?
> > >>
> > >> Swap with a different HD, or controller.
> > >>
> > >> Peter
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>




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