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Critical security hotfix causes event log warnings Joe_M 05-03-2007
Posted by Joe_M on May 3, 2007, 1:30 pm
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I started getting Application warnings shortly after I installed the
critical hotfix KB 925902 on my SBS 2000 server and restarted. They
continued every 5 minutes apart until I uninstalled the hotfix a week later.

Troubleshooting articles I found all suggested that the cause was some form
of corruption in the security database. As directed, I ran "esentutl.exe /q
C:\WINNT\security\database\secedit.sdb". I got no errors. I have had no
problems looking at and changing security policies.

What's the underlying cause of the problem? How do I fix this so that I can
keep the hotfix installed?

Is there a better newsgroup for this question?

The SBS 2000 Server is running Exchange and SQL. All are on current service
packs.

Thanks,

Joe M

----------------------------------------------

This is a cut/paste of the first warning event:

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: SceCli
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1202
Date: 4/9/2007
Time: 10:25:12 AM
User: N/A
Computer: MY-SBS
Description:
Security policies are propagated with warning. 0x4b8 : An extended error
has
occurred.

For best results in resolving this event, log on with a
non-administrative
account and search http://support.microsoft.com for "Troubleshooting
Event
1202s".

I kept getting these warning events every 5 minutes until I uninstalled
KB925902. After the restart I got:

Event Type: Information
Event Source: SceCli
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1704
Date: 4/17/2007
Time: 10:35:20 PM
User: N/A
Computer: BIAGINI-SBS
Description:
Security policy in the Group policy objects are applied successfully.

I have had no SceCli warning events since.





Posted by Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] on May 3, 2007, 3:55 pm
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www.eventid.net shows the following regarding your issue

Error code 0x4b8 (decimal 1208) - "An extended error occurred". See KB
260715 - A conflict in Group Policy can cause these events to occur. These
error messages can occur if the "Rename Administrator Account" security
policy is enabled and then set to an account name that is already in use.
Also, as per KB 285903, to resolve this behavior, remove all references to
the Power Users group in the Local Security settings.

--
Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]
-------------------------------------------------
Microsoft MVPs
Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS)
Real World Answers
---------------------------------------------------------
Please do not contact me directly regarding issues

>I started getting Application warnings shortly after I installed the
>critical hotfix KB 925902 on my SBS 2000 server and restarted. They
>continued every 5 minutes apart until I uninstalled the hotfix a week
>later.
>
> Troubleshooting articles I found all suggested that the cause was some
> form of corruption in the security database. As directed, I ran
> "esentutl.exe /q C:\WINNT\security\database\secedit.sdb". I got no errors.
> I have had no problems looking at and changing security policies.
>
> What's the underlying cause of the problem? How do I fix this so that I
> can keep the hotfix installed?
>
> Is there a better newsgroup for this question?
>
> The SBS 2000 Server is running Exchange and SQL. All are on current
> service packs.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe M
>
> ----------------------------------------------
>
> This is a cut/paste of the first warning event:
>
> Event Type: Warning
> Event Source: SceCli
> Event Category: None
> Event ID: 1202
> Date: 4/9/2007
> Time: 10:25:12 AM
> User: N/A
> Computer: MY-SBS
> Description:
> Security policies are propagated with warning. 0x4b8 : An extended error
> has
> occurred.
>
> For best results in resolving this event, log on with a
> non-administrative
> account and search http://support.microsoft.com for "Troubleshooting
> Event
> 1202s".
>
> I kept getting these warning events every 5 minutes until I uninstalled
> KB925902. After the restart I got:
>
> Event Type: Information
> Event Source: SceCli
> Event Category: None
> Event ID: 1704
> Date: 4/17/2007
> Time: 10:35:20 PM
> User: N/A
> Computer: BIAGINI-SBS
> Description:
> Security policy in the Group policy objects are applied successfully.
>
> I have had no SceCli warning events since.
>
>
>
>



Posted by Joe_M on May 4, 2007, 1:35 pm
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Cris,

Thanks for your reply. I started at eventid.net when I first noticed the
problem.

As for KB 260715, I looked at that and dismissed it.

1) It does not explain why installing KB925902 starts the problem and
removing KB925902 stops the problem.
2) The administrator account is not renamed.

As for KB 285903, I looked at that and dismissed it.

1) It does not explain why installing KB925902 starts the problem and
removing KB925902 stops the problem.
2) There are references to the Power Users Group in the User Rights
Assignment branch, but the references came "out of the box" and are nothing
I added.
3) Winlogon.log has no errors (other than Error 0 as a normal return) and
does not contain the error message referred to in 285903 or even the
characters "power".

Have you installed KB925902 on SBS 2000 without getting this problem?

Joe M

> www.eventid.net shows the following regarding your issue
>
> Error code 0x4b8 (decimal 1208) - "An extended error occurred". See KB
> 260715 - A conflict in Group Policy can cause these events to occur. These
> error messages can occur if the "Rename Administrator Account" security
> policy is enabled and then set to an account name that is already in use.
> Also, as per KB 285903, to resolve this behavior, remove all references
> to the Power Users group in the Local Security settings.
>
> --
> Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]
> -------------------------------------------------
> Microsoft MVPs
> Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS)
> Real World Answers
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Please do not contact me directly regarding issues
>
>>I started getting Application warnings shortly after I installed the
>>critical hotfix KB 925902 on my SBS 2000 server and restarted. They
>>continued every 5 minutes apart until I uninstalled the hotfix a week
>>later.
>>
>> Troubleshooting articles I found all suggested that the cause was some
>> form of corruption in the security database. As directed, I ran
>> "esentutl.exe /q C:\WINNT\security\database\secedit.sdb". I got no
>> errors. I have had no problems looking at and changing security policies.
>>
>> What's the underlying cause of the problem? How do I fix this so that I
>> can keep the hotfix installed?
>>
>> Is there a better newsgroup for this question?
>>
>> The SBS 2000 Server is running Exchange and SQL. All are on current
>> service packs.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Joe M
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------
>>
>> This is a cut/paste of the first warning event:
>>
>> Event Type: Warning
>> Event Source: SceCli
>> Event Category: None
>> Event ID: 1202
>> Date: 4/9/2007
>> Time: 10:25:12 AM
>> User: N/A
>> Computer: MY-SBS
>> Description:
>> Security policies are propagated with warning. 0x4b8 : An extended
>> error has
>> occurred.
>>
>> For best results in resolving this event, log on with a
>> non-administrative
>> account and search http://support.microsoft.com for "Troubleshooting
>> Event
>> 1202s".
>>
>> I kept getting these warning events every 5 minutes until I uninstalled
>> KB925902. After the restart I got:
>>
>> Event Type: Information
>> Event Source: SceCli
>> Event Category: None
>> Event ID: 1704
>> Date: 4/17/2007
>> Time: 10:35:20 PM
>> User: N/A
>> Computer: BIAGINI-SBS
>> Description:
>> Security policy in the Group policy objects are applied successfully.
>>
>> I have had no SceCli warning events since.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>



Posted by Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] on May 4, 2007, 1:53 pm
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I have not been running SBS (nor have any of my clients for 4 years) so
unfortunately I can't advise further

--
Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]
-------------------------------------------------
Microsoft MVPs
Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS)
Real World Answers
---------------------------------------------------------
Please do not contact me directly regarding issues

> Cris,
>
> Thanks for your reply. I started at eventid.net when I first noticed the
> problem.
>
> As for KB 260715, I looked at that and dismissed it.
>
> 1) It does not explain why installing KB925902 starts the problem and
> removing KB925902 stops the problem.
> 2) The administrator account is not renamed.
>
> As for KB 285903, I looked at that and dismissed it.
>
> 1) It does not explain why installing KB925902 starts the problem and
> removing KB925902 stops the problem.
> 2) There are references to the Power Users Group in the User Rights
> Assignment branch, but the references came "out of the box" and are
> nothing I added.
> 3) Winlogon.log has no errors (other than Error 0 as a normal return) and
> does not contain the error message referred to in 285903 or even the
> characters "power".
>
> Have you installed KB925902 on SBS 2000 without getting this problem?
>
> Joe M
>
>> www.eventid.net shows the following regarding your issue
>>
>> Error code 0x4b8 (decimal 1208) - "An extended error occurred". See KB
>> 260715 - A conflict in Group Policy can cause these events to occur.
>> These error messages can occur if the "Rename Administrator Account"
>> security policy is enabled and then set to an account name that is
>> already in use. Also, as per KB 285903, to resolve this behavior, remove
>> all references to the Power Users group in the Local Security settings.
>>
>> --
>> Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]
>> -------------------------------------------------
>> Microsoft MVPs
>> Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS)
>> Real World Answers
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> Please do not contact me directly regarding issues
>>
>>>I started getting Application warnings shortly after I installed the
>>>critical hotfix KB 925902 on my SBS 2000 server and restarted. They
>>>continued every 5 minutes apart until I uninstalled the hotfix a week
>>>later.
>>>
>>> Troubleshooting articles I found all suggested that the cause was some
>>> form of corruption in the security database. As directed, I ran
>>> "esentutl.exe /q C:\WINNT\security\database\secedit.sdb". I got no
>>> errors. I have had no problems looking at and changing security
>>> policies.
>>>
>>> What's the underlying cause of the problem? How do I fix this so that I
>>> can keep the hotfix installed?
>>>
>>> Is there a better newsgroup for this question?
>>>
>>> The SBS 2000 Server is running Exchange and SQL. All are on current
>>> service packs.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Joe M
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> This is a cut/paste of the first warning event:
>>>
>>> Event Type: Warning
>>> Event Source: SceCli
>>> Event Category: None
>>> Event ID: 1202
>>> Date: 4/9/2007
>>> Time: 10:25:12 AM
>>> User: N/A
>>> Computer: MY-SBS
>>> Description:
>>> Security policies are propagated with warning. 0x4b8 : An extended
>>> error has
>>> occurred.
>>>
>>> For best results in resolving this event, log on with a
>>> non-administrative
>>> account and search http://support.microsoft.com for "Troubleshooting
>>> Event
>>> 1202s".
>>>
>>> I kept getting these warning events every 5 minutes until I uninstalled
>>> KB925902. After the restart I got:
>>>
>>> Event Type: Information
>>> Event Source: SceCli
>>> Event Category: None
>>> Event ID: 1704
>>> Date: 4/17/2007
>>> Time: 10:35:20 PM
>>> User: N/A
>>> Computer: BIAGINI-SBS
>>> Description:
>>> Security policy in the Group policy objects are applied successfully.
>>>
>>> I have had no SceCli warning events since.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>



Posted by Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] on May 4, 2007, 2:19 pm
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Sorry meant I have not been running SBS 2000. I and all my clients are on
SBS 2003

--
Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]
-------------------------------------------------
Microsoft MVPs
Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS)
Real World Answers
---------------------------------------------------------
Please do not contact me directly regarding issues

>I have not been running SBS (nor have any of my clients for 4 years) so
>unfortunately I can't advise further
>
> --
> Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]
> -------------------------------------------------
> Microsoft MVPs
> Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS)
> Real World Answers
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Please do not contact me directly regarding issues
>
>> Cris,
>>
>> Thanks for your reply. I started at eventid.net when I first noticed the
>> problem.
>>
>> As for KB 260715, I looked at that and dismissed it.
>>
>> 1) It does not explain why installing KB925902 starts the problem and
>> removing KB925902 stops the problem.
>> 2) The administrator account is not renamed.
>>
>> As for KB 285903, I looked at that and dismissed it.
>>
>> 1) It does not explain why installing KB925902 starts the problem and
>> removing KB925902 stops the problem.
>> 2) There are references to the Power Users Group in the User Rights
>> Assignment branch, but the references came "out of the box" and are
>> nothing I added.
>> 3) Winlogon.log has no errors (other than Error 0 as a normal return) and
>> does not contain the error message referred to in 285903 or even the
>> characters "power".
>>
>> Have you installed KB925902 on SBS 2000 without getting this problem?
>>
>> Joe M
>>
>>> www.eventid.net shows the following regarding your issue
>>>
>>> Error code 0x4b8 (decimal 1208) - "An extended error occurred". See KB
>>> 260715 - A conflict in Group Policy can cause these events to occur.
>>> These error messages can occur if the "Rename Administrator Account"
>>> security policy is enabled and then set to an account name that is
>>> already in use. Also, as per KB 285903, to resolve this behavior,
>>> remove all references to the Power Users group in the Local Security
>>> settings.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]
>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>> Microsoft MVPs
>>> Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS)
>>> Real World Answers
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>> Please do not contact me directly regarding issues
>>>
>>>>I started getting Application warnings shortly after I installed the
>>>>critical hotfix KB 925902 on my SBS 2000 server and restarted. They
>>>>continued every 5 minutes apart until I uninstalled the hotfix a week
>>>>later.
>>>>
>>>> Troubleshooting articles I found all suggested that the cause was some
>>>> form of corruption in the security database. As directed, I ran
>>>> "esentutl.exe /q C:\WINNT\security\database\secedit.sdb". I got no
>>>> errors. I have had no problems looking at and changing security
>>>> policies.
>>>>
>>>> What's the underlying cause of the problem? How do I fix this so that I
>>>> can keep the hotfix installed?
>>>>
>>>> Is there a better newsgroup for this question?
>>>>
>>>> The SBS 2000 Server is running Exchange and SQL. All are on current
>>>> service packs.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Joe M
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> This is a cut/paste of the first warning event:
>>>>
>>>> Event Type: Warning
>>>> Event Source: SceCli
>>>> Event Category: None
>>>> Event ID: 1202
>>>> Date: 4/9/2007
>>>> Time: 10:25:12 AM
>>>> User: N/A
>>>> Computer: MY-SBS
>>>> Description:
>>>> Security policies are propagated with warning. 0x4b8 : An extended
>>>> error has
>>>> occurred.
>>>>
>>>> For best results in resolving this event, log on with a
>>>> non-administrative
>>>> account and search http://support.microsoft.com for "Troubleshooting
>>>> Event
>>>> 1202s".
>>>>
>>>> I kept getting these warning events every 5 minutes until I uninstalled
>>>> KB925902. After the restart I got:
>>>>
>>>> Event Type: Information
>>>> Event Source: SceCli
>>>> Event Category: None
>>>> Event ID: 1704
>>>> Date: 4/17/2007
>>>> Time: 10:35:20 PM
>>>> User: N/A
>>>> Computer: BIAGINI-SBS
>>>> Description:
>>>> Security policy in the Group policy objects are applied successfully.
>>>>
>>>> I have had no SceCli warning events since.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>



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