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Commercial building mortgage question(s) Drew 12-01-2005
Posted by enet@csi.com on December 6, 2005, 10:35 pm
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Hi,

I just found this message on the news-group and would like to see if I
can assist.

My Name is Ethan Grant and I provide commercial funding for various
enterprises. I have some asian personnel who may be able to communicate
with the borower or their intermediary. I am able to fund the CONUS and
some international areas.

Please email me at enet@csi.com to further assist. I will send you an
application.


Posted by Drew on December 7, 2005, 9:48 am
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>
> My Name is Ethan Grant and I provide commercial funding for various
> enterprises.

Thanks. I am not exactly sure what that means. Since this is an
informational forum, could you provide some more information related to this
topic that might be helpful to others as well as to me?

To be honest, I have a suspicion that you are talking about a deal where you
charge an upfront finder's fee to help people find commercial funding
sources. Am I right about that?



Posted by enet@csi.com on December 8, 2005, 7:56 pm
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My relpy referred to my services as a Commercial Loan Broker and will
be helpful as an informational service at the very least to those who
are not aware of worldwide funding sources for their unique situations.

I do not provide access to lending sources for an upfront fee. I
provide a loan and the charges for the loan are associated with the
actual loan.


Posted by Jeff Strickland on December 9, 2005, 9:06 pm
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IF (and that's a guarded "if") this guy is legitimate, then it would be
worth while to exchange an email on the side and get some phone numbers. The
way a broker works is to provide a loan with normal and customary closing
costs, then collect his commission either from the borrower if the borrower
wants the lowest possible rate, or from the bank (investors) if he wants the
lowest possible cost, or some combination of the two that meets the
borrower's expectations.

Let's say that 6.00% was the going rate for a Par Loan. The borrower would
pay all of the sales commission to arrange this loan. For the sake of
discussion, let's assume the sales commission is 2 points -- that's high but
it gives a place to illustrate the concept, and in some parts of the country
this is a reasonable and customary commission, depending upon the loan
amount.

So, to get a 6.00 loan, the borrower pays 2 points. But if the borrower
doesn't want to pay that much, then the rate can be jacked to -- for
example -- 6.25% and the borrower pays 1 point and the investor pays the
broker 1 point. OR, the borrower can take a loan at 6.50% and have no points
and the investor pays the broker 2 points to bring the loan package in.

On a 100,000 loan, 2 points isn't very much money, but on a 1,000,000 loan,
it's a ton of money. 1 point is 1% of the loan amount, so on 100 grand, it's
1,000, but on 1 million, it's 10,000. The work is arguably about the same,
and the 100,000 loan is typically more difficult because the borrower isn't
as savy. The bottom line is if the loan is very large, the points should
come down. Points are negotiable.

It would be cool if you guys could get some of the ground work laid here so
others could benefit from the discussion. Good luck.




> My relpy referred to my services as a Commercial Loan Broker and will
> be helpful as an informational service at the very least to those who
> are not aware of worldwide funding sources for their unique situations.
>
> I do not provide access to lending sources for an upfront fee. I
> provide a loan and the charges for the loan are associated with the
> actual loan.
>


Posted by Drew on December 10, 2005, 1:44 pm
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Thanks again.

While doing more searching on the Internet, I came across this website which
I thought was interesting:

http://www.c-loans.com

http://www.c-loans.com/feeagree.html

I'm not sure it would be helpful for my friend, but I thought the pitch on
the fee agreement sub-page would be interesting reading to anyone in the
commercial mortgage broker business.

> IF (and that's a guarded "if") this guy is legitimate, then it would be
> worth while to exchange an email on the side and get some phone numbers.
The
> way a broker works is to provide a loan with normal and customary closing
> costs, then collect his commission either from the borrower if the
borrower
> wants the lowest possible rate, or from the bank (investors) if he wants
the
> lowest possible cost, or some combination of the two that meets the
> borrower's expectations.
>
> Let's say that 6.00% was the going rate for a Par Loan. The borrower would
> pay all of the sales commission to arrange this loan. For the sake of
> discussion, let's assume the sales commission is 2 points -- that's high
but
> it gives a place to illustrate the concept, and in some parts of the
country
> this is a reasonable and customary commission, depending upon the loan
> amount.
>
> So, to get a 6.00 loan, the borrower pays 2 points. But if the borrower
> doesn't want to pay that much, then the rate can be jacked to -- for
> example -- 6.25% and the borrower pays 1 point and the investor pays the
> broker 1 point. OR, the borrower can take a loan at 6.50% and have no
points
> and the investor pays the broker 2 points to bring the loan package in.
>
> On a 100,000 loan, 2 points isn't very much money, but on a 1,000,000
loan,
> it's a ton of money. 1 point is 1% of the loan amount, so on 100 grand,
it's
> 1,000, but on 1 million, it's 10,000. The work is arguably about the same,
> and the 100,000 loan is typically more difficult because the borrower
isn't
> as savy. The bottom line is if the loan is very large, the points should
> come down. Points are negotiable.
>
> It would be cool if you guys could get some of the ground work laid here
so
> others could benefit from the discussion. Good luck.
>
>
>
>
> > My relpy referred to my services as a Commercial Loan Broker and will
> > be helpful as an informational service at the very least to those who
> > are not aware of worldwide funding sources for their unique situations.
> >
> > I do not provide access to lending sources for an upfront fee. I
> > provide a loan and the charges for the loan are associated with the
> > actual loan.
> >
>




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