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Can I delete 'Athenticated Users' group form local 'Users' group B-Christensen 01-29-2008
Posted by B-Christensen on January 29, 2008, 11:52 am
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We just acquired a company who has a file server with 15 TByte / 20 million+
files on it. When they set up the server, they granted Read access on all
files/folders to the server's Users group. This means, that because the
Authenticated Users group is a member of the server's Users group, everyone
who is able to log on has Read access to all the data. But we have a lot of
day-to-day consultants, joint-venture workers and such, and we need be able
to prevent them from reading and copying files

Re-ACL-ing the file server is not an option, they use TSM
incremental-for-ever backup and changing permissions will trigger a complete
new full backup, and we simply do not have the time and equipment for that.

The idea of just deleting the Authenticated Users from the server's local
Users group came up, but is this a save way to go on a file server?

- Bent



Posted by S. Pidgorny on January 30, 2008, 4:29 am
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Yes. You can always add it back in case serious problem will arise!

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> We just acquired a company who has a file server with 15 TByte / 20
> million+
> files on it. When they set up the server, they granted Read access on all
> files/folders to the server's Users group. This means, that because the
> Authenticated Users group is a member of the server's Users group,
> everyone
> who is able to log on has Read access to all the data. But we have a lot
> of
> day-to-day consultants, joint-venture workers and such, and we need be
> able
> to prevent them from reading and copying files
>
> Re-ACL-ing the file server is not an option, they use TSM
> incremental-for-ever backup and changing permissions will trigger a
> complete
> new full backup, and we simply do not have the time and equipment for
> that.
>
> The idea of just deleting the Authenticated Users from the server's local
> Users group came up, but is this a save way to go on a file server?
>
> - Bent
>
>



Posted by Roger Abell [MVP] on January 30, 2008, 5:14 am
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As a standard practice in setting up servers I remove Interactive and
Authenticated Users (and usually Domain Users) from Users. If one
does not do so, then one has no starting place from which to define
a "white list" style access control for the server where one must
state who does have access.
The trick in removing these is that you must determine what accounts
are being covered. Examples: IIS accounts, Guest if enabled, etc.
that may need grants that exist for Users group. Non-machine-local
accounts should be pretty clear, add the domain groups to define
who should be allowed; it is the machine local accounts that can
be overlooked. Also, notice that in the default at install settings
these memberships in Users do two things, provide permissions grants
(in the registry, the filesystem, etc.) and provide user rights grants
especially the logon rights. Not all accounts must have both, so
for many servers I also remove Users from the login rights grants
and replace that with custom group(s) in order to effect tighter
control over what accounts can get an authenticated connection.

Roger

> We just acquired a company who has a file server with 15 TByte / 20
> million+
> files on it. When they set up the server, they granted Read access on all
> files/folders to the server's Users group. This means, that because the
> Authenticated Users group is a member of the server's Users group,
> everyone
> who is able to log on has Read access to all the data. But we have a lot
> of
> day-to-day consultants, joint-venture workers and such, and we need be
> able
> to prevent them from reading and copying files
>
> Re-ACL-ing the file server is not an option, they use TSM
> incremental-for-ever backup and changing permissions will trigger a
> complete
> new full backup, and we simply do not have the time and equipment for
> that.
>
> The idea of just deleting the Authenticated Users from the server's local
> Users group came up, but is this a save way to go on a file server?
>
> - Bent
>
>



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