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Block Unauthorized Computer Dave Mackler 10-31-2007
Posted by Danny Sanders on November 1, 2007, 11:11 am
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> This will only cause a minimal slowdown if the unauthorized computer is
> malicious rather then an accident -- All it takes is a cheapo hub/switch
> to get connected. I had one at one point that was USB powered.
<Snip>
> This is well beyond what is likely happening here, chances are that this
> situation is just someone brought a home laptop in and plugged in.

Like you said, given what is "probably" happening, it's probably a user
connecting a laptop. Most users are going to give up if the jack does not
work. A policy of not letting users not connect personal computers to the
network and jacks the lead to nowhere is free and (as you state) it's
probably not malicious and not worth loosing their job over.

hth
DDS


>
>>You could also disconnect any unused jacks at the patch panel so when they
>>plug the computer into an unused jack, they can't get anywhere.
>
> This will only cause a minimal slowdown if the unauthorized computer is
> malicious rather then an accident -- All it takes is a cheapo hub/switch
> to get connected. I had one at one point that was USB powered.
>
> You can go a step further and lock down a one to one ratio between ports
> and MAC addresses, and automatically kill the port if an unauthorized
> MAC address shows up (many data centers do this, SOHO gear cannot)
>
> This raises the bar substantially, although it is entirely possible for
> a stateful NAT box to sit between a legitimate machine and the network,
> fake the correct MAC addresses on both sides, and still insert it's own
> traffic into the WAN side of the NAT box (the LAN), effectively
> "sharing" the IP of the client PC.
>
> This is well beyond what is likely happening here, chances are that this
> situation is just someone brought a home laptop in and plugged in.
>
> --
> You can get more with a kind word and a 2x4 than just a kind word.



Posted by Luka Manojlovic on October 31, 2007, 6:20 pm
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Reserve all "legitemate" IPs with MAC reservation...

Then exclute a whole range.

We have setup it this way... So nobody is getting the IPs from DHCP but only
machines listed in reservation.

You will recieve a message in event log that DHCP is full but ...

luka

> My servers are Server 2003, SP2. I have DHCP running well. I noticed a
> computer name in the Address list of the DHCP server that is not a
> computer that belongs to our company. All I have is the computer name and
> MAC address, which DHCP catches.
>
> How can I block or prohibit this computer from getting an IP address or
> from using our network for whatever purpose??
>
> dave Admin
>
>



Posted by DevilsPGD on October 31, 2007, 8:28 pm
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>Reserve all "legitemate" IPs with MAC reservation...
>
>Then exclute a whole range.
>
>We have setup it this way... So nobody is getting the IPs from DHCP but only
>machines listed in reservation.
>
>You will recieve a message in event log that DHCP is full but ...

Or alternatively, map them to a special IP range that is heavily
monitored, track down who/what is the problem and resolve it (likely
with HR's involvement)

--
You can get more with a kind word and a 2x4 than just a kind word.

Posted by Steven L Umbach on October 31, 2007, 7:33 pm
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As others have mentioned managed switches with mac filtering can certainly
help and such switches have learning modes for existing mac addresses on the
network so that you don't have to enter them all manually. DHCP scopes with
only reservations may stop the computer from getting a dynamic IP but not
from a computer with a static IP on your network. Ipsec policies may be
something to look at to use for traffic between domain computers [excluding
domain controllers] which can prevent non domain computers from accessing
any domain computer other than domain controllers which can not use ipsec
policies for traffic between them and other non domain controller domain
computers. The link below explains how to do this. Most likely someone put a
laptop from home on your network. If that is against policy you may want to
reiterate that to everyone.

Steve

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/guidance/architectureanddesign/ipsec/default.mspx
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/254949 --- must read before implementing
any ipsec policies

> My servers are Server 2003, SP2. I have DHCP running well. I noticed a
> computer name in the Address list of the DHCP server that is not a
> computer that belongs to our company. All I have is the computer name and
> MAC address, which DHCP catches.
>
> How can I block or prohibit this computer from getting an IP address or
> from using our network for whatever purpose??
>
> dave Admin
>
>



Posted by Dave Mackler on November 1, 2007, 8:26 am
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Thanks to all for the suggestions and insight. I believe this is simply
somehome bringing in a home computer with no malicious intent. The simple
first try, as suggested in responses, is to make a reservation for the MAC
address with an out-of-range IP.

Thanks to all, interesting thread.

dave Admin



> My servers are Server 2003, SP2. I have DHCP running well. I noticed a
> computer name in the Address list of the DHCP server that is not a
> computer that belongs to our company. All I have is the computer name and
> MAC address, which DHCP catches.
>
> How can I block or prohibit this computer from getting an IP address or
> from using our network for whatever purpose??
>
> dave Admin
>
>
>




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