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Beware new laptops John Rivers 06-06-2008
Posted by John Rivers on June 6, 2008, 4:04 pm
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Hi

There are two things which make buying a laptop today VERY RISKY

- nearly all manufacturers only supply (and support) vista drivers
- this means you have no downgrade path in the event of problems
with applications

- gpu drivers for nvidia and ati mobile gpus are ONLY available via
the *laptop manufacturer*
- this means driver updates will be delayed and infrequent
- this means updates will STOP when the manufacturer wishes

these two facts mean buying a laptop today is not a good idea

my current pentium m laptop has up-to-date drivers for all components
downloaded
straight from the component manufacturer

this will not be possible with the current generation of laptops

because of this I have cancelled my plans to buy a $2000 laptop this
month

Watch out


Posted by R. P. on June 6, 2008, 10:32 pm
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> There are two things which make buying a laptop today VERY RISKY
>
> - nearly all manufacturers only supply (and support) vista drivers
> - this means you have no downgrade path in the event of problems
> with applications
>
> - gpu drivers for nvidia and ati mobile gpus are ONLY available via
> the *laptop manufacturer*
> - this means driver updates will be delayed and infrequent
> - this means updates will STOP when the manufacturer wishes
>
> these two facts mean buying a laptop today is not a good idea
>
> my current pentium m laptop has up-to-date drivers for all components
> downloaded
> straight from the component manufacturer
>
> this will not be possible with the current generation of laptops
>
> because of this I have cancelled my plans to buy a $2000 laptop this
> month

Yes, but not everybody can be without a laptop, so what are they to do?
Laptops always had some manufacturer supported drivers and probably
always will.

R. P.


Posted by Don Phillipson on June 7, 2008, 6:46 am
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> There are two things which make buying a laptop today VERY RISKY
>
> - nearly all manufacturers only supply (and support) vista drivers
> - this means you have no downgrade path in the event of problems
> with applications

Perhaps (together with price) this makes all the stronger
case for the Asus Eee, with Linux OS, preconfigured for
wireless Internet etc. Storage is limited to 4 Gb so you
would need a desktop as well, but desktops will continue
to allow more flexibility and variation than laptops.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)



Posted by Peter in New Zealand on June 7, 2008, 7:06 am
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>
>> There are two things which make buying a laptop today VERY RISKY
>>
>> - nearly all manufacturers only supply (and support) vista drivers
>> - this means you have no downgrade path in the event of problems
>> with applications
>
> Perhaps (together with price) this makes all the stronger
> case for the Asus Eee, with Linux OS, preconfigured for
> wireless Internet etc. Storage is limited to 4 Gb so you
> would need a desktop as well, but desktops will continue
> to allow more flexibility and variation than laptops.
>
> --
> Don Phillipson
> Carlsbad Springs
> (Ottawa, Canada)
>
After several years of using laptops I went back to a desktop a couple of
years ago for reasons of durability, ease of service, and I could build it
myself! It is also cheap (relatively) to maintain compared to a laptop. Easy
to upgrade and blow the dust bunnies out of too.

It was reported here in New Zealand recently that laptops are outselling
desktops 3 to 1. Most of the laptop owners I know personally very rarely use
the portability of their laptop, keeping it plugged into the power on their
desk most of the time. I think a lot of these people might be in for a real
shock the first time their laptop needs servicing. My last laptop suffered a
cup of tea spill over the keyboard which did it no harm whatsoever except
for the keyboard which was totalled. I was told a replacement, should it
even be available, would cost something in the area of $300 to $400. I just
wasn't prepared to put that sort of money into an older machine. But a
desktop is a dream for getting parts, and servicing by comparison.

Maybe the retaillers here sort of push prospective buyers towards laptops
because there's more money in it - in the sense that they will be back for
a new one much sooner than they would be on average with a desktop.

Hmmmm - any thoughts out there?

--
Peter in New Zealand. (Email address is fake)
Collector of old cameras, tropical fish fancier, good coffee nutter, and
compulsive computer fiddler.



Posted by G.G. Willikers on June 7, 2008, 7:47 am
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Peter in New Zealand wrote:
>>
>>> There are two things which make buying a laptop today VERY RISKY
>>>
>>> - nearly all manufacturers only supply (and support) vista drivers
>>> - this means you have no downgrade path in the event of problems
>>> with applications
>> Perhaps (together with price) this makes all the stronger
>> case for the Asus Eee, with Linux OS, preconfigured for
>> wireless Internet etc. Storage is limited to 4 Gb so you
>> would need a desktop as well, but desktops will continue
>> to allow more flexibility and variation than laptops.
>>
>> --
>> Don Phillipson
>> Carlsbad Springs
>> (Ottawa, Canada)
>>
> After several years of using laptops I went back to a desktop a couple of
> years ago for reasons of durability, ease of service, and I could build it
> myself! It is also cheap (relatively) to maintain compared to a laptop. Easy
> to upgrade and blow the dust bunnies out of too.
>
> It was reported here in New Zealand recently that laptops are outselling
> desktops 3 to 1. Most of the laptop owners I know personally very rarely use
> the portability of their laptop, keeping it plugged into the power on their
> desk most of the time. I think a lot of these people might be in for a real
> shock the first time their laptop needs servicing. My last laptop suffered a
> cup of tea spill over the keyboard which did it no harm whatsoever except
> for the keyboard which was totalled. I was told a replacement, should it
> even be available, would cost something in the area of $300 to $400. I just
> wasn't prepared to put that sort of money into an older machine. But a
> desktop is a dream for getting parts, and servicing by comparison.
>
> Maybe the retaillers here sort of push prospective buyers towards laptops
> because there's more money in it - in the sense that they will be back for
> a new one much sooner than they would be on average with a desktop.
>
> Hmmmm - any thoughts out there?
>

Unless you have a one-of-a-kind gold plated keyboard, you can usually
find any model for under $40.00.

Uh yeah, of course they send the consumer to laptops. There is zero
profit margin on PC's anymore.

Of course you can get a pretty good laptop for $500.00, they will kill
you on the warranty coverage. That's where they make the money.

--
The RIGHT REVEREND G.G. WILLIKERS

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