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Posted by Barry Watzman on July 17, 2006, 9:08 pm
Please log in for more thread options Every case is different. And you don't know exactly what was recalled
or why. It could be an issue in the laptop, it could be an issue in the
battery saftety & control circuits, it could be an issue in a production
run of Lithium cells themselves. We don't have enough information to
know the whole picture.
eScotty wrote:
> Thanks to Barry and M.I.5 for their replies.
> But one thing I'm puzzled by: If the laptops-into-firebombs problem is
> just due to the use of bad batteries, why did some of the laptop
> manufacturers issue recalls for certain laptops following the fires?
> Doesn't that suggest problems with the hardware, too?
>
>
> M.I.5¾ wrote:
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>>>There was a spectacular case of this recently, and videos of it were all
>>>over the internet. However, it is very likely (although not certain) that
>>>the laptop involved had non-Dell batteries.
>>>
>>>Litium batteries, which all laptops and cell phones use, can become
>>>extremely dangerous if not properly managed. They can more or less become
>>>a lethal fire bomb. However, they all have extensive internal protection
>>>devices and internal microprocessors in the batteries themselves to keep
>>>them from going incindiary. Most of the instances of problems have
>>>involved cheap 3rd party batteries not made by the original device
>>>manufacturer. But ***ALL*** modern laptops (and pretty much all cell
>>>phones also) have lithium batteries, and catastrophic incindiary failure
>>>is extremely rare.
>>>
>>
>>I concur with Barry.
>>
>>I should point out that there has been a recent surge in after market
>>batteries that are in fact counterfeit. That is: they are made and packaged
>>to look like the original maker's batteries, but are in fact nothing to do
>>with them. There has been more than just suggestions that organised
>>criminals are behind them. It has been identified, that many of these have
>>vital protective devices missing and as such, are highly dangerous. As long
>>as you stick to original manufacturer's batteries or reputable pattern
>>battery suppliers, you should have no problems. Most of the larger
>>suppliers of equipment have been affected (and not just laptop suppliers).
>>Most of the counterfeits are good, but not perfect, so it is possible to
>>tell them apart if you know what to look for.
>>
>>Put briefly: buy your replacement batteries from an identifiable reputable
>>supplier (beware internet comanies that you can neither pin down to a
>>specific address or communicate easily with). If the battery supplied is
>>faulty or badly designed, the supplier can be liable for any loss or damage
>>incurred.
>>
>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>My daughter is going off to university in September and will need a
>>>>laptop. I did some research, and was all set to buy her a Dell
>>>>Inspiron 6400, but then I read a newspaper article about laptop
>>>>batteries that have caught fire because the owner forgot to turn off
>>>>the laptop. Dell was mentioned as one of the brands - not the only one
>>>>- that has had this problem. So now I'm confused.
>>>>
>>>>Are there certain laptop brands that have non-lithium batteries and are
>>>>less likely to catch fire? Can anyone offer any suggestions on
>>>>avoiding this problem? I know the risks are fairly low, but I want to
>>>>take no chances.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>eScotty
>>>>
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