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Backup Restore Peyton Collins 07-03-2006
---> Re: Backup Restore Clinton Fitch [...07-03-2006
Posted by Peyton Collins on July 3, 2006, 3:42 am
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Can anyone explain why the Backup and Restore functionality was removed from
Active Sync V4.1 for the SmartPhone and PPC V5.0?



Posted by Clinton Fitch [MVP-Mobile Devi on July 3, 2006, 12:31 pm
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Hello,

It was removed due to the changes in the way WM5 uses your devices ROM/RAM.
Before WM5, RAM was used for storing applications/data which, if powered off
completely, would loose that information. With WM5, Persistent Storage was
introduced which means that applications and data are store in ROM which is
not impacted should you loose power.

I'm not sure if there are any 3rd Party backup applications that will work
with Smartphones. I know there are several for PPC devices.

Regards,

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> Can anyone explain why the Backup and Restore functionality was removed
> from Active Sync V4.1 for the SmartPhone and PPC V5.0?
>



Posted by Donald E. Stidwell on July 3, 2006, 12:42 pm
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Reply to message from "Clinton Fitch [MVP-Mobile Devices]"
"Re: Backup Restore":

CF> I'm not sure if there are any 3rd Party backup applications that will
CF> work with Smartphones. I know there are several for PPC devices.

Sprite makes a backup program for WM 5 Smartphones. Works great on my T-
Mobile SDA.

Don

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Posted by Dave Lee on July 5, 2006, 12:57 pm
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If third party's can do this why cant MS?

This is valuable functionality if you ask me that should be included "out of
the box"

> Hello,
>
> It was removed due to the changes in the way WM5 uses your devices
> ROM/RAM. Before WM5, RAM was used for storing applications/data which, if
> powered off completely, would loose that information. With WM5,
> Persistent Storage was introduced which means that applications and data
> are store in ROM which is not impacted should you loose power.
>
> I'm not sure if there are any 3rd Party backup applications that will work
> with Smartphones. I know there are several for PPC devices.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Clinton Fitch [MVP-Mobile Devices]
>
> Clinton Fitch (Dot) Com! ~ http://www.clintonfitch.com
> HPC:Factor ~ http://www.hpcfactor.com
> Read My Blog! ~ http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=24
>
> Clinton Fitch (Dot) Com! & HPC:Factor are Smartphone & Pocket PC Magazine
> "Best Sites"!
>
>
>> Can anyone explain why the Backup and Restore functionality was removed
>> from Active Sync V4.1 for the SmartPhone and PPC V5.0?
>>
>
>



Posted by Peyton Collins on July 6, 2006, 2:27 pm
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Thank you Clinton, Don, and Dave.

I agree with Dave, though data may not be lost thanks to persistent memory,
many hours of work is required to return a device to functionality when a
poorly designed or malicious program corrupts the device. Before installing
dangerous 'pre-alpha' applications, it is necessary to backup the device.

Intentionally removing this functionality from ActiveSync seems more like a
business decision than a technical one, and makes life harder for
developers.

I now have to go with Don's Sprite suggestion and purchase, qualify,
maintain, CPIN, and document another software tool from another manufacturer
and qualify the manufacturer as well. :(

Not Good.





> If third party's can do this why cant MS?
>
> This is valuable functionality if you ask me that should be included "out
of
> the box"
>
> "Clinton Fitch [MVP-Mobile Devices]"
> > Hello,
> >
> > It was removed due to the changes in the way WM5 uses your devices
> > ROM/RAM. Before WM5, RAM was used for storing applications/data which,
if
> > powered off completely, would loose that information. With WM5,
> > Persistent Storage was introduced which means that applications and data
> > are store in ROM which is not impacted should you loose power.
> >
> > I'm not sure if there are any 3rd Party backup applications that will
work
> > with Smartphones. I know there are several for PPC devices.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --
> > Clinton Fitch [MVP-Mobile Devices]
> >
> > Clinton Fitch (Dot) Com! ~ http://www.clintonfitch.com
> > HPC:Factor ~ http://www.hpcfactor.com
> > Read My Blog! ~ http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=24
> >
> > Clinton Fitch (Dot) Com! & HPC:Factor are Smartphone & Pocket PC
Magazine
> > "Best Sites"!
> >
> >
> >> Can anyone explain why the Backup and Restore functionality was removed
> >> from Active Sync V4.1 for the SmartPhone and PPC V5.0?
> >>
> >
> >
>
>



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