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Audiovox 5600 & Motorola MPX220 - Which is better? Richard Basch 11-28-2005
Posted by Richard Basch on November 28, 2005, 2:13 am
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I am considering moving to the Smartphone platform, either with an Audiovox
5600 or Motorola MPX220. I realize that phones are definitely a personal
preference, so I was curious if anyone can give me some guidance.

I live in the US, and it seems the predominant carrier of choice for
Smartphones is Cingular. Between Verizon and Cingular, it seems Cingular
hsa more options, and I must choose between the two carriers based on cell
coverage.

Requirements:
- Primarily looks & feels like a phone. Small form factor. I have the Treo
600 and hate it; I loved my Kyocera 7135, but when it broke, Verizon
replaced it with the Treo since they no longer offered the Kyocera.
- USB sync with my Outlook calendar, contacts, and todo (over 500 contacts,
and several hundred calendar entries)
- Speakerphone
- Good audio quality & reception
- Good customer service & cellphone exchange program
- Voice memos

Highly Desired:
- Bluetooth (for headset, etc)
- Expandable memory
- Voice dialing
- Camera & video recording

Carrier:
- Cingular
- Verizon
Other carriers do not offer sufficient cell coverage for where I
live/travel.

As of this time, it seems my research has drawn me to the Audiovox 5600 &
Motorola MPX220 phones. The Motorola MPX220 phone seems to previously have
bad reviews, but has rave reviews with the new firmware. The local Cingular
rep doesn't like the Motorola, but I don't know if that is a good indicator
or not. It seems to boast a better camera and international support, as
well as a flip/clam-style phone which probably protects it better if dropped
and also reduces accidental key presses.

As I see it:

Audiovox 5600:
Pros:
- Lighter
Cons:
- Lower resolution camera
- Tri-band vs. quad-band (negligible decision factor)
- The joystick is difficult to press to "select" without also going
up/down/left/right.
- Candy bar style means one has to lock it to prevent accidental key
presses.

Motorola MPX220:
Pros:
- Flip/clam style (protects screen from drops and reduces accidental key
presses)
- Quad-band (international support)
- Higher resolution camera
Cons:
- More negative reviews (is this still true with the new firmware - 1.43;
there are many reviews that suggest the old firmware had lots of issues).

And finally, is there a difference in equipment protection plans or
warranties that suggest the purchase of one or the other?



Posted by Todd Ogasawara, Mobile Devices on November 28, 2005, 3:50 am
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I've got both phones. You can find my review of the MPx220 at...

On the Go with the Motorola MPx220 Camera Phone
http://digitalmedia.oreilly.com/2005/05/04/mpx220.html

Couple of thoughts...

1. The MPx220's clamshell (flip-cover) design is very handy. No accidental
button presses etc. (no need to lock the keypad).
2. The MPx220's navigation rose is much easier to use than the 5600's
rollbar navigation
3. I could never get the Bluetooth stack on the MPx220 to work with my Axim
X50v in wireless modem mode. It worked the first time I configured it on the
5600.
4. The MPx220 has a 1.3 megapixel camera. The 5600 has a 640x480 (0.3
megapixel) sub-megapixel camera.
5. The MPx220's on button requires a pretty firm and lenghty push to get it
to power on. The 5600 turns on and off the way one might expect the button
to work.
6. The MPx220 ships with a voice dialer in firmware that works pretty well.

Both phones are pretty solid choices from a phone-centric point of view. So,
as you say, your personal choices based on the design differences need to
come into play. I think you'll be pleased with either device.
--
Todd Ogasawara, MS-MVP/Mobile Devices
Online Editor - http://MobileViews.com/ -- PDA & Wireless Info

>I am considering moving to the Smartphone platform, either with an Audiovox
> 5600 or Motorola MPX220. I realize that phones are definitely a personal
> preference, so I was curious if anyone can give me some guidance.
>
> I live in the US, and it seems the predominant carrier of choice for
> Smartphones is Cingular. Between Verizon and Cingular, it seems Cingular
> hsa more options, and I must choose between the two carriers based on cell
> coverage.
>
> Requirements:
> - Primarily looks & feels like a phone. Small form factor. I have the
> Treo
> 600 and hate it; I loved my Kyocera 7135, but when it broke, Verizon
> replaced it with the Treo since they no longer offered the Kyocera.
> - USB sync with my Outlook calendar, contacts, and todo (over 500
> contacts,
> and several hundred calendar entries)
> - Speakerphone
> - Good audio quality & reception
> - Good customer service & cellphone exchange program
> - Voice memos
>
> Highly Desired:
> - Bluetooth (for headset, etc)
> - Expandable memory
> - Voice dialing
> - Camera & video recording
>
> Carrier:
> - Cingular
> - Verizon
> Other carriers do not offer sufficient cell coverage for where I
> live/travel.
>
> As of this time, it seems my research has drawn me to the Audiovox 5600 &
> Motorola MPX220 phones. The Motorola MPX220 phone seems to previously
> have
> bad reviews, but has rave reviews with the new firmware. The local
> Cingular
> rep doesn't like the Motorola, but I don't know if that is a good
> indicator
> or not. It seems to boast a better camera and international support, as
> well as a flip/clam-style phone which probably protects it better if
> dropped
> and also reduces accidental key presses.
>
> As I see it:
>
> Audiovox 5600:
> Pros:
> - Lighter
> Cons:
> - Lower resolution camera
> - Tri-band vs. quad-band (negligible decision factor)
> - The joystick is difficult to press to "select" without also going
> up/down/left/right.
> - Candy bar style means one has to lock it to prevent accidental key
> presses.
>
> Motorola MPX220:
> Pros:
> - Flip/clam style (protects screen from drops and reduces accidental key
> presses)
> - Quad-band (international support)
> - Higher resolution camera
> Cons:
> - More negative reviews (is this still true with the new firmware - 1.43;
> there are many reviews that suggest the old firmware had lots of issues).
>
> And finally, is there a difference in equipment protection plans or
> warranties that suggest the purchase of one or the other?
>
>



Posted by Ed on November 28, 2005, 8:35 am
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Richard,

I'd vote for MPx220 for the reasons you mentione and those that Todd added
in his reply. I've had both phones. I started with an MPx220 with
Cingular. Had lots of firmware related problems, and when I couldn't stand
it any longer, exchanged it with Cingular for the SMT 5600. REALLY liked
the small size of the SMT 5600 and its slightly larger screen size. But
that was it for its positives as far as I'm concerned.

Since I was used to the MPx220, the processor on the SMT 5600 seemed slow,
especially when doing text messages, or any alpha type stuff -- I could
"type" faster than the phone could respong -- if you can imagine that using
only the numeric keypad! The voice dial feature on MPx220 was FAR superior!
It "knows" everyone in your contact list and can dial them. If there's more
than one number, the phone asks you which one you want. On the SMT5600, you
have to record a voice tage for each number you want to dial. So, to dial
you, I might have to record tags Richard Home, Richard Cell, etc. A real
pain.

I've got slightly over 300 contacts and everything works well synching with
Outlook, etc. Have synched wired, bluetooth, and "over air. Have also used
the MPx220 as a modem -- both wired and bluetooth -- connected to my laptop
to allow me to surf the net, pay bills online, etc., when sitting out at
anchor on a sailboat!

My vote is definitely for MPx220. Only problem I have is a delay when you
answer a received call; frequently I have to repeat the word "Hello" before
the calling party can hear me. Hopefully that will be cleared up in the
next firmware release.

Avoid Verizon at all costs! I'll go without a phone before I'll ever deal
with them again!

Ed


>I am considering moving to the Smartphone platform, either with an Audiovox
> 5600 or Motorola MPX220. I realize that phones are definitely a personal
> preference, so I was curious if anyone can give me some guidance.
>
> I live in the US, and it seems the predominant carrier of choice for
> Smartphones is Cingular. Between Verizon and Cingular, it seems Cingular
> hsa more options, and I must choose between the two carriers based on cell
> coverage.
>
> Requirements:
> - Primarily looks & feels like a phone. Small form factor. I have the
> Treo
> 600 and hate it; I loved my Kyocera 7135, but when it broke, Verizon
> replaced it with the Treo since they no longer offered the Kyocera.
> - USB sync with my Outlook calendar, contacts, and todo (over 500
> contacts,
> and several hundred calendar entries)
> - Speakerphone
> - Good audio quality & reception
> - Good customer service & cellphone exchange program
> - Voice memos
>
> Highly Desired:
> - Bluetooth (for headset, etc)
> - Expandable memory
> - Voice dialing
> - Camera & video recording
>
> Carrier:
> - Cingular
> - Verizon
> Other carriers do not offer sufficient cell coverage for where I
> live/travel.
>
> As of this time, it seems my research has drawn me to the Audiovox 5600 &
> Motorola MPX220 phones. The Motorola MPX220 phone seems to previously
> have
> bad reviews, but has rave reviews with the new firmware. The local
> Cingular
> rep doesn't like the Motorola, but I don't know if that is a good
> indicator
> or not. It seems to boast a better camera and international support, as
> well as a flip/clam-style phone which probably protects it better if
> dropped
> and also reduces accidental key presses.
>
> As I see it:
>
> Audiovox 5600:
> Pros:
> - Lighter
> Cons:
> - Lower resolution camera
> - Tri-band vs. quad-band (negligible decision factor)
> - The joystick is difficult to press to "select" without also going
> up/down/left/right.
> - Candy bar style means one has to lock it to prevent accidental key
> presses.
>
> Motorola MPX220:
> Pros:
> - Flip/clam style (protects screen from drops and reduces accidental key
> presses)
> - Quad-band (international support)
> - Higher resolution camera
> Cons:
> - More negative reviews (is this still true with the new firmware - 1.43;
> there are many reviews that suggest the old firmware had lots of issues).
>
> And finally, is there a difference in equipment protection plans or
> warranties that suggest the purchase of one or the other?
>
>



Posted by subdude on November 28, 2005, 9:27 am
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us with:

While I'd have to agree with BOTH posts, the main problem is that the
MPX220 seems to have been totally abandoned by both Cingular and Moto
and hopes for future firmware fixes are slim if any.

And forget about Bluetooth headsets; you CAN'T do voice dialing with
them and they work only if you dial the phone and THEN connect -
defeating the purpose.

subdude

>Richard,
>
>I'd vote for MPx220 for the reasons you mentione and those that Todd added
>in his reply. I've had both phones. I started with an MPx220 with
>Cingular. Had lots of firmware related problems, and when I couldn't stand
>it any longer, exchanged it with Cingular for the SMT 5600. REALLY liked
>the small size of the SMT 5600 and its slightly larger screen size. But
>that was it for its positives as far as I'm concerned.
>
>Since I was used to the MPx220, the processor on the SMT 5600 seemed slow,
>especially when doing text messages, or any alpha type stuff -- I could
>"type" faster than the phone could respong -- if you can imagine that using
>only the numeric keypad! The voice dial feature on MPx220 was FAR superior!
>It "knows" everyone in your contact list and can dial them. If there's more
>than one number, the phone asks you which one you want. On the SMT5600, you
>have to record a voice tage for each number you want to dial. So, to dial
>you, I might have to record tags Richard Home, Richard Cell, etc. A real
>pain.
>
>I've got slightly over 300 contacts and everything works well synching with
>Outlook, etc. Have synched wired, bluetooth, and "over air. Have also used
>the MPx220 as a modem -- both wired and bluetooth -- connected to my laptop
>to allow me to surf the net, pay bills online, etc., when sitting out at
>anchor on a sailboat!
>
>My vote is definitely for MPx220. Only problem I have is a delay when you
>answer a received call; frequently I have to repeat the word "Hello" before
>the calling party can hear me. Hopefully that will be cleared up in the
>next firmware release.
>
>Avoid Verizon at all costs! I'll go without a phone before I'll ever deal
>with them again!
>
>Ed
>
>
>>I am considering moving to the Smartphone platform, either with an Audiovox
>> 5600 or Motorola MPX220. I realize that phones are definitely a personal
>> preference, so I was curious if anyone can give me some guidance.
>>
>> I live in the US, and it seems the predominant carrier of choice for
>> Smartphones is Cingular. Between Verizon and Cingular, it seems Cingular
>> hsa more options, and I must choose between the two carriers based on cell
>> coverage.
>>
>> Requirements:
>> - Primarily looks & feels like a phone. Small form factor. I have the
>> Treo
>> 600 and hate it; I loved my Kyocera 7135, but when it broke, Verizon
>> replaced it with the Treo since they no longer offered the Kyocera.
>> - USB sync with my Outlook calendar, contacts, and todo (over 500
>> contacts,
>> and several hundred calendar entries)
>> - Speakerphone
>> - Good audio quality & reception
>> - Good customer service & cellphone exchange program
>> - Voice memos
>>
>> Highly Desired:
>> - Bluetooth (for headset, etc)
>> - Expandable memory
>> - Voice dialing
>> - Camera & video recording
>>
>> Carrier:
>> - Cingular
>> - Verizon
>> Other carriers do not offer sufficient cell coverage for where I
>> live/travel.
>>
>> As of this time, it seems my research has drawn me to the Audiovox 5600 &
>> Motorola MPX220 phones. The Motorola MPX220 phone seems to previously
>> have
>> bad reviews, but has rave reviews with the new firmware. The local
>> Cingular
>> rep doesn't like the Motorola, but I don't know if that is a good
>> indicator
>> or not. It seems to boast a better camera and international support, as
>> well as a flip/clam-style phone which probably protects it better if
>> dropped
>> and also reduces accidental key presses.
>>
>> As I see it:
>>
>> Audiovox 5600:
>> Pros:
>> - Lighter
>> Cons:
>> - Lower resolution camera
>> - Tri-band vs. quad-band (negligible decision factor)
>> - The joystick is difficult to press to "select" without also going
>> up/down/left/right.
>> - Candy bar style means one has to lock it to prevent accidental key
>> presses.
>>
>> Motorola MPX220:
>> Pros:
>> - Flip/clam style (protects screen from drops and reduces accidental key
>> presses)
>> - Quad-band (international support)
>> - Higher resolution camera
>> Cons:
>> - More negative reviews (is this still true with the new firmware - 1.43;
>> there are many reviews that suggest the old firmware had lots of issues).
>>
>> And finally, is there a difference in equipment protection plans or
>> warranties that suggest the purchase of one or the other?
>>
>>
>


Posted by Tom Scott on November 28, 2005, 10:11 am
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> us with:
>
> While I'd have to agree with BOTH posts, the main problem is that the
> MPX220 seems to have been totally abandoned by both Cingular and Moto
> and hopes for future firmware fixes are slim if any.
>
> And forget about Bluetooth headsets; you CAN'T do voice dialing with
> them and they work only if you dial the phone and THEN connect -
> defeating the purpose.
>
> subdude
>
>>Richard,
>>
>>I'd vote for MPx220 for the reasons you mentione and those that Todd added
>>in his reply. I've had both phones. I started with an MPx220 with
>>Cingular. Had lots of firmware related problems, and when I couldn't
>>stand
>>it any longer, exchanged it with Cingular for the SMT 5600. REALLY liked
>>the small size of the SMT 5600 and its slightly larger screen size. But
>>that was it for its positives as far as I'm concerned.
>>
>>Since I was used to the MPx220, the processor on the SMT 5600 seemed slow,
>>especially when doing text messages, or any alpha type stuff -- I could
>>"type" faster than the phone could respong -- if you can imagine that
>>using
>>only the numeric keypad! The voice dial feature on MPx220 was FAR
>>superior!
>>It "knows" everyone in your contact list and can dial them. If there's
>>more
>>than one number, the phone asks you which one you want. On the SMT5600,
>>you
>>have to record a voice tage for each number you want to dial. So, to dial
>>you, I might have to record tags Richard Home, Richard Cell, etc. A real
>>pain.
>>
>>I've got slightly over 300 contacts and everything works well synching
>>with
>>Outlook, etc. Have synched wired, bluetooth, and "over air. Have also
>>used
>>the MPx220 as a modem -- both wired and bluetooth -- connected to my
>>laptop
>>to allow me to surf the net, pay bills online, etc., when sitting out at
>>anchor on a sailboat!
>>
>>My vote is definitely for MPx220. Only problem I have is a delay when you
>>answer a received call; frequently I have to repeat the word "Hello"
>>before
>>the calling party can hear me. Hopefully that will be cleared up in the
>>next firmware release.
>>
>>Avoid Verizon at all costs! I'll go without a phone before I'll ever deal
>>with them again!
>>
>>Ed
>>
>>
>>>I am considering moving to the Smartphone platform, either with an
>>>Audiovox
>>> 5600 or Motorola MPX220. I realize that phones are definitely a
>>> personal
>>> preference, so I was curious if anyone can give me some guidance.
>>>
>>> I live in the US, and it seems the predominant carrier of choice for
>>> Smartphones is Cingular. Between Verizon and Cingular, it seems
>>> Cingular
>>> hsa more options, and I must choose between the two carriers based on
>>> cell
>>> coverage.
>>>
>>> Requirements:
>>> - Primarily looks & feels like a phone. Small form factor. I have the
>>> Treo
>>> 600 and hate it; I loved my Kyocera 7135, but when it broke, Verizon
>>> replaced it with the Treo since they no longer offered the Kyocera.
>>> - USB sync with my Outlook calendar, contacts, and todo (over 500
>>> contacts,
>>> and several hundred calendar entries)
>>> - Speakerphone
>>> - Good audio quality & reception
>>> - Good customer service & cellphone exchange program
>>> - Voice memos
>>>
>>> Highly Desired:
>>> - Bluetooth (for headset, etc)
>>> - Expandable memory
>>> - Voice dialing
>>> - Camera & video recording
>>>
>>> Carrier:
>>> - Cingular
>>> - Verizon
>>> Other carriers do not offer sufficient cell coverage for where I
>>> live/travel.
>>>
>>> As of this time, it seems my research has drawn me to the Audiovox 5600
>>> &
>>> Motorola MPX220 phones. The Motorola MPX220 phone seems to previously
>>> have
>>> bad reviews, but has rave reviews with the new firmware. The local
>>> Cingular
>>> rep doesn't like the Motorola, but I don't know if that is a good
>>> indicator
>>> or not. It seems to boast a better camera and international support, as
>>> well as a flip/clam-style phone which probably protects it better if
>>> dropped
>>> and also reduces accidental key presses.
>>>
>>> As I see it:
>>>
>>> Audiovox 5600:
>>> Pros:
>>> - Lighter
>>> Cons:
>>> - Lower resolution camera
>>> - Tri-band vs. quad-band (negligible decision factor)
>>> - The joystick is difficult to press to "select" without also going
>>> up/down/left/right.
>>> - Candy bar style means one has to lock it to prevent accidental key
>>> presses.
>>>
>>> Motorola MPX220:
>>> Pros:
>>> - Flip/clam style (protects screen from drops and reduces accidental key
>>> presses)
>>> - Quad-band (international support)
>>> - Higher resolution camera
>>> Cons:
>>> - More negative reviews (is this still true with the new firmware -
>>> 1.43;
>>> there are many reviews that suggest the old firmware had lots of
>>> issues).
>>>
>>> And finally, is there a difference in equipment protection plans or
>>> warranties that suggest the purchase of one or the other?
>>>
I own the equivalent of a 5600 (SPV-C500) that I reflashed with the latest
Qtek rom and am using on T-Mobile USA network with T-Zones. Does all I need,
web browsing and email on the go.

As well I have an Imate PDA2k that depending on need for the day, I'll swap
the sim over. This is a fine PDA/Phone, but I prefer the phone version.

Without question, aside from my trusty T68i, it is one of the best phones
I've ever used - and with the Qtek rom is one of the most stable, far less
problematic than my friend's MPx. The screen on the "5600" is better and
clearer than the MPx, and while the learning curve on the navigation rocker
is longer, it is just as easy to use as the MPx nav disk.

Can't comment on a bluetooth headset though, I prefer the wired stereo ones
that came with the phone, the voice tags work well.

As far as locking keys, it is easy to lock and unlock, so this is not a
problem. Moto make good phones, but the MPx even with the latest rom is
nowhere near as stable as the "5600".



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