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Posted by Tammy on November 17, 2004, 8:19 pm
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What would be a good alternative to using frames? I need something
that will section my webpage into two halves and can change both
frames on a single click.
Thanks in Advance,
Tammy
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Posted by Neal on November 18, 2004, 12:19 am
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> What would be a good alternative to using frames?
Anything else, except maybe Flash. A hammer to the gonads is an
improvement over frames.
> I need something
> that will section my webpage into two halves and can change both
> frames on a single click.
Mark's link to brucie's example yields a good method. Another is to
approach it differently. Using PHP (or SSI, though PHP is probably better
for this) you can include content on the server and have pages that can
give the effect without really having two frames.
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Posted by kaeli on November 18, 2004, 8:40 am
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> What would be a good alternative to using frames? I need something
> that will section my webpage into two halves and can change both
> frames on a single click.
The alternative depends on why you thought you needed them in the first
place.
There are a few things that only frames can do. For example, my intranet
application needs a top frame because I reload it every minute to check if a
user is logged in (whether they are logged in or not is displayed, so an
"invisible" frame would not work here). I also store other session data in
it. It would be a bad thing to reload a page a person is trying to type in.
;)
Other than that, though, there really isn't much of a use for them. Many web
IDEs, including Frontpage and Dreamweaver, have a template function so that
if you want all your pages to have the same data in them (navigation,
headers, footers, etc), it's easy to manage w/o frames. If you've got any
kind of server-side processing, SSI, PHP, JSP, CGI, and the like can include
files to get the same effect.
Why do you "need" two sections? What is the goal? Sometimes we think we need
something, but in fact, there are other ways to accomplish the goal (we limit
our options by not seeing the big picture or not knowing of alternatives).
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Posted by Ralph Nader 2008 on November 19, 2004, 12:32 am
Please log in for more thread options On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 07:40:53 -0600, kaeli
>Why do you "need" two sections? What is the goal? Sometimes we think we need
>something, but in fact, there are other ways to accomplish the goal (we limit
>our options by not seeing the big picture or not knowing of alternatives).
I concur. Too many sites these days use CMS on the server to generate
pages dynamically, while contents doesn't change that much, and the
site could easily be generated on a host to render a static site,
ready to be uploaded to any web server.
Besides solving the frame issue (all the pages are generated using
templates, hence it's a breeze to add common sections like nav bars),
a static sites renders faster and any web server can be used.
Ralph.
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Posted by kaeli on November 19, 2004, 9:14 am
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>
> Besides solving the frame issue (all the pages are generated using
> templates, hence it's a breeze to add common sections like nav bars),
> a static sites renders faster and any web server can be used.
Since discovering Dreamweaver templates, I am now officially spoiled. :)
I can update the menu for my site - on all 300 pages - with one little
click...or, as I get bored with my stuff often, I just change the entire
layout of every page with one click and a little CSS change.
One of the most common uses for frames is navigation. Now, with CSS and
templates, there's just no reason for that at all.
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