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Posted by truthwalker on March 21, 2007, 1:35 am
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> You said "convert to static", not "convert from static".
Well since ActiveConverter converts Visual Web Developer projects. And
there almost always is something dynamic in Visual Web Developer
projects. For example if you want to make it easier to change your
website's look you can use Master files (also known as templates)
which means if you change a Master file, the pages that use the Master
file will update themselves automatically. So I hope that it makes
sense to say it converts to static.
> There are 3 sorts of website, for our purposes here:
>
> #1 Entirely static sites built from static HTML.
>
> #2 Static sites generated dynamically from a read-only database.
> These are sites that can correctly use HTTP GET throughout, according
> to the usual rules on HTTP GET action vs. HTTP POST.
>
> #3 Dynamic interactive sites that change according to user
> interaction, passage of time or external inputs (newsfeeeds etc.)
>
> Your product converts type #2 sites to type #1. This is a useful task,
> I've done it myself many times. #1 doesn't need your product. #3
> can't use it.
>
> Your original postings were far from clear that the product couldn't
> be used for a #3 site.
>
> These days there are increasingly fewer #2 sites. #1 is still popular,
> but for "serious" sites, #3 is replacing #2 as more and more non-core
> features are added. These could be as simple as targetted (server-
> side) ad serving.
>
> What I still fail to understand is why you limit the product to
> ASP.NET sites. It uses Visual Web Developer (but not at run-time) and
> the final hosting is presumably static HTML alone. You don't specify
> any dependencies on particular web servers.
Are you asking why create a product that only works for a small part
of the web that create #2 websites? Well people who create #2 websites
do exist and the point of this product is to make those people's lives
easier. I do not see anything wrong with that, do you?
>From experince I know that updating and maintaining a purely static
website can very annoying and tedious if trying to maintain or update
the look to pages already created. This was one of the reasons
ActiveConverter was created.
Plus if you wanted to create a #3 website in Visual Web Developer with
a server that supported ASP.NET you could with ActiveConverter be able
to let your visitors download a part of your website for offline
viewing. For example a book or a tutorial.
> If the original site is accessed via HTTP, then there's no reason at
> all why the conversion tool should even _know_ if it ran on ASP.NET or
> mod_perl etc., let alone care. Does this tool parse the source
> instead?
ActiveConverter uses the engine like the one that ASP.NET uses to
convert Visual Web Developer projects. It is like if you were to go to
a website that uses ASP.NET and save the source code of that page that
you see in your web browser then later download the images, styles,
etc from the webpage. Aftr getting the source, images, styles, etc
combine all of it to create the webpage that you could then upload to
your server and not need ASP.NET. Now of course there would be some
limitations if the website needed server side scripting more then once
but there are many things that you can use in Visual Web Developer
that do not. Hope that explains the process better, if not let me
know.
> Incidentally, making a tool like this is one of the few good reasons
> to output your site as XHTML rather than HTML. It makes it very easy
> to do.
Whole point of ActiveConverter is making life easier when trying to
maintain a static website through Visual Web Developer.
>
> > You can always run HTML Tidy or some other html clean up program after
> > converting.
>
> Now _that's_ an admission of failure, if ever I heard!
My website is maintained and updated with Visual Web Developer and
ActiveConverter. I have not used any program like HTML Tidy on my
website. Since you keep talking about major flaws in my website would
you kindly tell me specifically about them so I can attempt to fix
them?
Thanks again for responding to my posts.
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