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Access Control to LDAP on AD? <-> 10-14-2005
Posted by <-> on October 14, 2005, 9:20 pm
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Is there a way to block certain user accounts from performing LDAP queries
on Active Directory?

If anyone could let me know I would be most appreciative.




Posted by Roger Abell [MVP] on October 14, 2005, 10:17 pm
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I believe you can not realistically do that as an account will at times
be issuing Ldap queries, behind the scenes, sometimes against
the GCs, just to function as a domain client. Also, not all Ldap
queries are authenticated queries so if your objective is to
avoid a potential DoS from malicious queries they may try to
side-step your efforts using unauthenticated binds if they are
allowed to communicate with the ldap and gc ldap ports.

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Roger Abell
Microsoft MVP (Windows Server : Security)
MCDBA, MCSE W2k3+W2k+Nt4
> Is there a way to block certain user accounts from performing LDAP queries
> on Active Directory?
>
> If anyone could let me know I would be most appreciative.
>




Posted by <-> on October 17, 2005, 2:57 pm
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So, there's no solution?


>I believe you can not realistically do that as an account will at times
> be issuing Ldap queries, behind the scenes, sometimes against
> the GCs, just to function as a domain client. Also, not all Ldap
> queries are authenticated queries so if your objective is to
> avoid a potential DoS from malicious queries they may try to
> side-step your efforts using unauthenticated binds if they are
> allowed to communicate with the ldap and gc ldap ports.
>
> --
> Roger Abell
> Microsoft MVP (Windows Server : Security)
> MCDBA, MCSE W2k3+W2k+Nt4
>> Is there a way to block certain user accounts from performing LDAP
>> queries on Active Directory?
>>
>> If anyone could let me know I would be most appreciative.
>>
>
>




Posted by <-> on October 18, 2005, 11:08 am
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Apparently not. So someone writing a rogue LDAP query can bring down and
domain or enterprise with no ability to stop them. Great.

> So, there's no solution?
>
>
>>I believe you can not realistically do that as an account will at times
>> be issuing Ldap queries, behind the scenes, sometimes against
>> the GCs, just to function as a domain client. Also, not all Ldap
>> queries are authenticated queries so if your objective is to
>> avoid a potential DoS from malicious queries they may try to
>> side-step your efforts using unauthenticated binds if they are
>> allowed to communicate with the ldap and gc ldap ports.
>>
>> --
>> Roger Abell
>> Microsoft MVP (Windows Server : Security)
>> MCDBA, MCSE W2k3+W2k+Nt4
>>> Is there a way to block certain user accounts from performing LDAP
>>> queries on Active Directory?
>>>
>>> If anyone could let me know I would be most appreciative.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>




Posted by Alun Jones on October 18, 2005, 10:55 am
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Denial of Service is always a possibility. Consider someone simply firing
off connections - the classic SYN attack - to overload your LDAP server.
Yes, that will cause your LDAP server to become unreliable, in the strictest
sense that sometimes it will respond to requests, and other times it will be
unable to do so.

As for "no ability to stop them", that's going rather far. All ("all") you
have to do is monitor your network for suspicious behaviour, track down the
perpetrator, and then march over there with a couple of security and HR
personnel so that you can fire his arse for breaching your corporate
security policy. You do have a corporate security policy, don't you? You
do have an IDS in place to monitor rogue traffic, yes?

Alun.
~~~~

> Apparently not. So someone writing a rogue LDAP query can bring down and
> domain or enterprise with no ability to stop them. Great.
>
>> So, there's no solution?
>>
>>
>>>I believe you can not realistically do that as an account will at times
>>> be issuing Ldap queries, behind the scenes, sometimes against
>>> the GCs, just to function as a domain client. Also, not all Ldap
>>> queries are authenticated queries so if your objective is to
>>> avoid a potential DoS from malicious queries they may try to
>>> side-step your efforts using unauthenticated binds if they are
>>> allowed to communicate with the ldap and gc ldap ports.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Roger Abell
>>> Microsoft MVP (Windows Server : Security)
>>> MCDBA, MCSE W2k3+W2k+Nt4
>>>> Is there a way to block certain user accounts from performing LDAP
>>>> queries on Active Directory?
>>>>
>>>> If anyone could let me know I would be most appreciative.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>




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