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ATT Real Estate Agents... What do you want in a mortgage broker? UNOME 03-27-2006
Posted by Jay Reifert on April 5, 2006, 2:51 pm
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You can only imagine how it would break my heart if this
were the last time you would "indulge" me. <smirk>

Post, here, your list of five. I didn't see them, below,
and I won't waste my time looking across Usenet for them.
I already told you why I won't put you on my short list,
however, that's only part of the reason. The other part
has to do with the babysitting originators aspect of my
real estate business and the fact that most loan originators
don't know how to comply with the four things that ARE
crucial to any good agent who works with buyers...but
especially to those who work FOR buyers. (I'm thinking
the distinction is probably lost on you, but, maybe
not.)

So, post your five things and, as I said, I'll be glad
to credit you in the areas in which we agree, if any,
and will even educate you on the areas where we don't
agree...those being the ones that I KNOW are the most
important points, because all **I** do, is work for home
buyers.

So, respond if you care, or exercise your option to
withhold "indulgence". I don't care. It is, however,
your chance to prove how smart you are.

http://www.real-reform.org/pcnonebas.pdf

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http://profiles.yahoo.com/jay_reifert ** http://www.true-agent.com
http://www.madison-real-estate.com

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$cott wrote:
> Jay,
>
> I assume you are responding to me, so I will indulge you (most likely
> for the last time):
>
>
>> As for offering my clients a deal, what good does it
>> do if you're only saving one of my clients a little
>> bit of money on one transaction? You could easily
>> take a loss on one transaction to get your bragging
>> rights, and then go back to your normal fee structure.
>
> RESPONSE: You previously posted that you INSIST that your buyers
> "cross-shop" you to ensure that they are getting the best deal; your
> statements above are not in the spirit of your initial assertion.
> What way do you do it; steer them to known non-competitive entities to
> justify your YSP/fees?
>>
>> You've done nothing on this forum to indicate to me
>> that you're worthy of my trust. You don't even know
>> what is most important to licensees, as evidenced
>> by your inquiry.
>
> RESPONSE: I enjoy you. I seriously doubt that you have taken the
> time to read my previous posts, but I have just taken the time to read
> yours. You have been active on Google Groups since Mar 29th and the
> humorous thing is that you have been single minded in posting the same
> thing over and over and over again (check it out yourself by clicking
> on "view profile" next to his name). "Home Buyers Beware....Realtors
> Are Your Rights" 123 times. I won't take it personally if you don't
> trust me, your opinion is without merit or substance.
>>
>> Let's see if you can guess them, and explain why they
>> are important. Every time you make a wrong guess, I'll
>> post one of them here. You might learn something yet.
>
> RESPONSE: I have posted what I have learned to be the 5 motivating
> factors, how many have you listed? Why don't you guess why I am wrong
> and explain why they aren't important? I think that if you did that,
> we would all learn something. Let me give you a hint, it has nothing
> to do with procuring cause Mr. 123.
>>
>> I have my originators license so it is legal for me to
>> comment on lending documents at the closing table. It
>> is beyond the scope of my real estate license to comment
>> on those documents, with a few exceptions. It is my
>> wife, with my assistance, who handles the mortgage end
>> of things. She has no real estate license.
>
> RESPONSE: That's great, but what does that have to do with the
> thread? Do you think your tireless self promotion builds credibility
> with anyone other then your own ego?
>>
>> Try to rein in your jealousy. Not all licensees have
>> an interest in being involved in the mortgage business.
>> It's unlikely to have a major impact on you anytime
>> soon.
>
> RESPONSE: For the second time, I neither fear or envy your entry into
> the lending industry. This is a multi-trillion dollar industry, with
> 500K loan officers and + 10K wholesalers servicing that number;
> insurance cos. and Wall Street are in on the act.....Donald Trump
> opened up a mortgage company a couple of months ago and Walmart is
> thinking about giving it a try and trust me when I say, I am least
> worried about what you and your wife are doing. I now realize why you
> have opted to do financing in-house; nobody could possibly service
> that ego of yours. I must admit though, you are one of a kind....The
> kind that I choose to ignore.
>>
>> PS: We're with a mortgage banker. By the way, I don't
>> believe for one minute, given what I know about rate
>> matrices, that you can actively track five hundred
>> investors. Having them is one thing. Knowing what
>> each of them is offering is quite another.
>
> RESPONSE: You have no idea how my organization handles this process,
> but I'll give you a clue.....IT and data mining. Intranets connecting
> investors with LOs and proprietary databases (stuffed with guidelines
> and rates) searchable by a variety of variables are just a few of the
> protocols that I have at my disposal. Again, I offer to demonstrate
> my point by taking one of your clients and challenging your
> conventions. It's put up or shut up time with me bub, otherwise I
> will have a hard time taking you seriously in the future. If your
> true motivation is what is best for your buyer, and you insist that
> they shop you to ensure that they are getting the best deal, then add
> me to the bid list.
>
> Regards,
>
> Scott Miller
> Commercial and Residential Lender/Broker
> 1.877.716.6495
> EZMortgageLoanz@aol.com
>>>>>
> www.RealEstate-IQ.com
> www.EZMortgageLoanz.com



Posted by $cott on April 6, 2006, 5:11 am
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> Post, here, your list of five. I didn't see them, below,
> and I won't waste my time looking across Usenet for them.

RESPONSE: There not to hard to find, just look at the first message.
But for you, here you go:

1. I want to increase the number houses you sell.
2. I want to increase the transaction value of each house sold
3. I want to get paid (minimize attrition; lost deals) and get paid
faster (quick closing times).
4. I want to increase the number of customers I service (lead
sharing/lead generation/marketing assistance; reciprocal lead exchange)

5. I want consistent and accurate communication of the loan status.

Now let's see how smart you are.

Regards,

Scott Miller
Commercial and Residential Lender/Broker
1.877.716.6495
EZMortgageLoanz@aol.com

www.RealEstate-IQ.com
www.EZMortgageLoanz.com


Posted by Steve Horrillo on April 5, 2006, 10:58 pm
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> RESPONSE: I enjoy you. I seriously doubt that you have taken the time
> to read my previous posts, but I have just taken the time to read
> yours. You have been active on Google Groups since Mar 29th and the
> humorous thing is that you have been single minded in posting the same
> thing over and over and over again

That's right. And all Scott's done is try to help others and ask their
opinions on how to better serve his clients and do better at marketing. Ever
post Jay has made is self serving with not a hint of creativity. I would
block his posts but he's just so darn stupid it's entertaining. I guess
every town needs a village idiot to make it a little more colorful. :)

While I applaud his efforts to break the tie between the MLS and the
Associations, this procuring cause angle is way to lame to even warrant
discussion. And making enemy's out of potential supporters is pure stupidity
as well.

This putz even had the nerve to call me on my cell AND my home phone looking
for an argument.

--
Warmest regards,

Steve Horrillo, Realtor / C.Ht.

MLS Training http://BrokerAgentTraining.com
Join EXIT Realty http://over100percent.com

Posted by Jay Reifert on April 6, 2006, 4:13 am
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<yawn><yawn><yawn>

"And all $cotts done..." <lol> First, why do you suppose there
is a dollar sign, instead of an "S" in "$cott's name? This
purported "paragon" of virtue is attempting, without much success,
to offer up expertise, with the desire that licensees viewing his messages
may be interested in seeing what he can do for them.

I, actually, have no problem with that.

But, let's not pretend that $$$$$$$$cott is here just for the
sake of generously giving his time with no hope of return.

I can't help it that $$$$$$$$$$cott has decided to lock horns
with me, rather than post his five points so that we can
finish our little discussion...and maybe really help some
people, ESPECIALLY wannabe buyer agents and others who try
to help buyers get to closed transactions.

As for you Steve, I can't help it you were too cowardly to
have a discussion with me over--<gasp><gasp><gasp>--a,
<gasp> , telephone! You're a RealtorŪ. I'm a (hostage)
RealtorŪ. As such, I have tools to look you up, and I did.

It's much quicker to come to a conclusion via phone, that
it is via Usenet, so I was interested in seeing if there
was any hope of intelligent conversation, or if it was just
going to be more of your inane bloviating, such as the
tripe you've put forth in every post in our exchanges.

Well, I guess you've provided the answer to that question.

Supporters for my position don't quite say the things that
you do. <lol>

So, I wonder...is $$$$$$$$$cott ever going to put his five
points into this thread, so we can discuss them, or will
it just be continued attempts at diversion and misdirection.

I think he's scared that I might make him look bad. Well,
here's my promise. If what he posts here are good ideas,
I'll credit him for them. Even if he posts things that I
think are of lesser importance, I will not attempt to make
him look bad. Once he does put his points out here, I will
then tell him what should matter to any top notch buyer's
agent, from a lending perspective.

http://www.real-reform.org/pcnonebas.pdf

--

Jay Reifert -- Fitchburg/Madison ****** http://www.real-reform.org
http://profiles.yahoo.com/jay_reifert ** http://www.true-agent.com
http://www.madison-real-estate.com

mailto:true-agents@12345true-agent.com <-----------Remember to
remove the numbers from
the email address before
hitting send.


Steve Horrillo wrote:
>
>> RESPONSE: I enjoy you. I seriously doubt that you have taken the
>> time to read my previous posts, but I have just taken the time to
>> read yours. You have been active on Google Groups since Mar 29th
>> and the humorous thing is that you have been single minded in
>> posting the same thing over and over and over again
>
> That's right. And all Scott's done is try to help others and ask their
> opinions on how to better serve his clients and do better at
> marketing. Ever post Jay has made is self serving with not a hint of
> creativity. I would block his posts but he's just so darn stupid it's
> entertaining. I guess every town needs a village idiot to make it a
> little more colorful. :)
>
> While I applaud his efforts to break the tie between the MLS and the
> Associations, this procuring cause angle is way to lame to even
> warrant discussion. And making enemy's out of potential supporters is
> pure stupidity as well.
>
> This putz even had the nerve to call me on my cell AND my home phone
> looking for an argument.



Posted by $cott on April 6, 2006, 5:21 am
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Jay Reifert wrote:
> <yawn><yawn><yawn>
>
> "And all $cotts done..." <lol> First, why do you suppose there
> is a dollar sign, instead of an "S" in "$cott's name? This
> purported "paragon" of virtue is attempting, without much success,
> to offer up expertise, with the desire that licensees viewing his messages
> may be interested in seeing what he can do for them.
>
> I, actually, have no problem with that.
>
> But, let's not pretend that $$$$$$$$cott is here just for the
> sake of generously giving his time with no hope of return.
>
> I can't help it that $$$$$$$$$$cott has decided to lock horns
> with me, rather than post his five points so that we can
> finish our little discussion...and maybe really help some
> people, ESPECIALLY wannabe buyer agents and others who try
> to help buyers get to closed transactions.
>
> As for you Steve, I can't help it you were too cowardly to
> have a discussion with me over--<gasp><gasp><gasp>--a,
> <gasp> , telephone! You're a Realtor=AE. I'm a (hostage)
> Realtor=AE. As such, I have tools to look you up, and I did.
>
> It's much quicker to come to a conclusion via phone, that
> it is via Usenet, so I was interested in seeing if there
> was any hope of intelligent conversation, or if it was just
> going to be more of your inane bloviating, such as the
> tripe you've put forth in every post in our exchanges.
>
> Well, I guess you've provided the answer to that question.
>
> Supporters for my position don't quite say the things that
> you do. <lol>
>
> So, I wonder...is $$$$$$$$$cott ever going to put his five
> points into this thread, so we can discuss them, or will
> it just be continued attempts at diversion and misdirection.
>
> I think he's scared that I might make him look bad. Well,
> here's my promise. If what he posts here are good ideas,
> I'll credit him for them. Even if he posts things that I
> think are of lesser importance, I will not attempt to make
> him look bad. Once he does put his points out here, I will
> then tell him what should matter to any top notch buyer's
> agent, from a lending perspective.
>
Jay,

Yawn.....It's official, I'm bored with your antics. $cott does offer
up advise (more then posting the same message 123 times since March
29)......$cott is here to assist and to build brand (I assume you are
doing the same thing as you posted the same message 123 times in a
row).....I haven't decided to lock horns with you, you made a statement
(that you insist that your buyers cross shop you to ensure that they
are getting the best deal from you) and I decided to call you on it,
but par for most B.S. artists, you deflect and distract....The five
points were posted in the first message genius like every other thread
on the Usenet....I'm not scared that you will make me look bad, you
have already discredited yourself by making statements that you have no
intentions of standing behind.....It's your time to shine....I have
dubbed you the Don King of Self Promotion.....


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