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120+GB Laptop drives available when? _R 04-12-2005
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Posted by _R on April 12, 2005, 10:19 pm
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Any idea when laptop drives will exceed 100GB?




Posted by BR549 on April 13, 2005, 2:36 pm
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Any idea when laptop drives will exceed 100GB?

Toshiba already had a 120gb notebook drive, model #MHV2120AT.





Posted by JHEM on April 13, 2005, 6:44 pm
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BR549 wrote:
> Any idea when laptop drives will exceed 100GB?
>
> Toshiba already had a 120gb notebook drive, model #MHV2120AT.

1) It's a Fujitsu, not a Toshiba.

2) Not released yet as a 120GB, it's still vapourware.

3) At 4200RPM, who the heck would want one?

Seagate, Hitachi and (BION) Western Digital all allegedly have 5400RPM 120GB
laptop HDs waiting in the wings.

Seagate is already shipping their 5400RPM 100GB laptop HD.

Hitachi has a 7200RPM 80/100/120GB laptop HD to be released "soon".

Regards,

James




Posted by Paul Rubin on April 13, 2005, 12:34 pm
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> > Toshiba already had a 120gb notebook drive, model #MHV2120AT.
>
> 1) It's a Fujitsu, not a Toshiba.

Something wrong with Fujitsu?

> 2) Not released yet as a 120GB, it's still vapourware.

Hmm, ok.

> 3) At 4200RPM, who the heck would want one?

This doesn't bother me and I've so far been buying 4200 rpm drives in
preference to 5400 rpm. 4200mm drives are quieter and use less power
and perhaps are more reliable (less heat). The seek latency is about
the same as 5400 rpm drives even if the rotational latency is a little
longer. Most laptop applications should not be seek intensive; if
they are, your software is badly designed or you don't have enough ram.

> Hitachi has a 7200RPM 80/100/120GB laptop HD to be released "soon".

This kind of scares me. I still associate Hitachi with IBM Travelstars
which had bad reliability problems even at 4200 rpm. Lately I've been
buying only Toshiba drives.

I notice the Hitachi 7200 rpm 60gb drives come in both a 7K60 version
and an E7K60 (Enterprise?) version. The E version claims to be built
for continuous operation and is the same price (zipzoomfly.com). I
wonder what the differences really are and whether the E version is
mainly intended for blade servers and is somehow unsuitable for laptops.

The 7200 rpm Hitachis do have 2x the track to track seek speed of the
Toshiba 4200 and 5400 rpm drives, so are likely to make lots of programs
run noticably faster.


Posted by J. Clarke on April 13, 2005, 3:39 pm
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Paul Rubin wrote:

>> > Toshiba already had a 120gb notebook drive, model #MHV2120AT.
>>
>> 1) It's a Fujitsu, not a Toshiba.
>
> Something wrong with Fujitsu?

Well, if Fujitsu makes the drive and you go to Toshiba looking to buy it
you're going to have a pretty long wait.

>> 2) Not released yet as a 120GB, it's still vapourware.
>
> Hmm, ok.
>
>> 3) At 4200RPM, who the heck would want one?
>
> This doesn't bother me and I've so far been buying 4200 rpm drives in
> preference to 5400 rpm. 4200mm drives are quieter and use less power
> and perhaps are more reliable (less heat). The seek latency is about
> the same as 5400 rpm drives even if the rotational latency is a little
> longer. Most laptop applications should not be seek intensive; if
> they are, your software is badly designed or you don't have enough ram.
>
>> Hitachi has a 7200RPM 80/100/120GB laptop HD to be released "soon".
>
> This kind of scares me. I still associate Hitachi with IBM Travelstars
> which had bad reliability problems even at 4200 rpm. Lately I've been
> buying only Toshiba drives.
>
> I notice the Hitachi 7200 rpm 60gb drives come in both a 7K60 version
> and an E7K60 (Enterprise?) version. The E version claims to be built
> for continuous operation and is the same price (zipzoomfly.com). I
> wonder what the differences really are and whether the E version is
> mainly intended for blade servers and is somehow unsuitable for laptops.

Reading the specs, it seems that rather than being built differently, the
E7K60 simply requires more cooling--its rated for a maximum ambient of 40C
vs 55 for the regular 7K60. The E7K60 is also available as a 40 GB drive
for some reason.

There may be differences in the firmware.

> The 7200 rpm Hitachis do have 2x the track to track seek speed of the
> Toshiba 4200 and 5400 rpm drives, so are likely to make lots of programs
> run noticably faster.

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