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100GB Hard Disk Drive, 7200rpm versus 160GB Hard Disk Drive, 5400rpm amandaf37 09-02-2007
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Posted by amandaf37 on September 5, 2007, 10:36 am
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On Sep 5, 7:28 am, amanda...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sep 5, 7:23 am, amanda...@gmail.com wrote:
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> > > Just thought I'd chime in... check the laptop you're looking at to see
> > > if it uses an externally-accessible drive carrier.
>
> > How to check that?
>
> > > These used to be
> > > common, particularly on corporate-market models, where most home/
> > > retail models have the hard-drive internalized.
>
> > What does it mena external versus internal? Do these terms refer to
> > the same thing as in desktop system?
>
> > > If yours uses a drive
> > > carrier, swapping drives is simple and relatively easy--usually a
> > > jeweler's screw-driver is the only tool needed.
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> > > Most 2.5" drives still have 12.5 ms access time, whether 5400 rpm or
> > > 7200 rpm. The 7200 rpm drive may have a faster transfer speed. If
> > > you want 2.5" performance, you have to go with Seagate's corporate
> > > (blade-server market) 10,000 rpm drives, available as of December 2004
> > > in 36 GB and 73 GB versions as U320 SCSI -- but I've heard they've
> > > since been adapted to SATA-II/300.
>
> > In a thinkpad, wouldn't they use ibm hard drive?
>
> > > They have 4.9 and 4.5 ms access time and transfer speed unequaled among
mechanical 2.5 inch drives,
> > > last I heard. Of course, there are the solid-state hard-
> > > drives...bring money!
>
> > > If you can find an express-card eSATA-II/300 card, that would give
> > > optimal access to an external hard drive, to take full advantage of a
> > > big (cheap) fast hard-drive. Otherwise, eSATA-150 PC-card/PCMCIA
> > > cards are pretty cheap and realistically almost as good. eSATA-II
> > > offers hot-swap, which is definitely a good. Speed ranking, eSATA-II,
> > > eSATA, Firewire 800, Firewire 400/iLink400, USB 2.0; but that depends
> > > on the interface to the controller (i.e., on-motherboard, express-
> > > card, PC-card).
>
> > Can you give me some *technical* explanation on express card and on
> > SATA-II/300, eSATA-II/150 and eSATA-II/300 or refers me to a link to
> > understand all this in more detail?
>
> I think I will read this:http://www.pcmcia.org/faq.htm- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

May be this better: http://www.tech-faq.com/pcmcia.shtml

BTW, I did know a bit about what pc cards is in *techinal* way.

And saving this for myself here so that I can come back to raed when
I foregt: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=what+is+eSATA


Posted by amandaf37 on September 5, 2007, 10:58 am
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> Just thought I'd chime in... check the laptop you're looking at to see
> if it uses an externally-accessible drive carrier. These used to be
> common, particularly on corporate-market models, where most home/
> retail models have the hard-drive internalized. If yours uses a drive
> carrier, swapping drives is simple and relatively easy--usually a
> jeweler's screw-driver is the only tool needed.
>
> Most 2.5" drives still have 12.5 ms access time, whether 5400 rpm or
> 7200 rpm. The 7200 rpm drive may have a faster transfer speed. If
> you want 2.5" performance, you have to go with Seagate's corporate
> (blade-server market) 10,000 rpm drives, available as of December 2004
> in 36 GB and 73 GB versions as U320 SCSI -- but I've heard they've
> since been adapted to SATA-II/300. They have 4.9 and 4.5 ms access
> time and transfer speed unequaled among mechanical 2.5 inch drives,
> last I heard. Of course, there are the solid-state hard-
> drives...bring money!
>
> If you can find an express-card eSATA-II/300 card, that would give
> optimal access to an external hard drive, to take full advantage of a
> big (cheap) fast hard-drive. Otherwise, eSATA-150 PC-card/PCMCIA
> cards are pretty cheap and realistically almost as good. eSATA-II
> offers hot-swap, which is definitely a good. Speed ranking, eSATA-II,
> eSATA, Firewire 800, Firewire 400/iLink400, USB 2.0; but that depends
> on the interface to the controller (i.e., on-motherboard, express-
> card, PC-card).

The system expansion on what I ordered is "PC Card Slot & Express
Card Slot" .

I was going to use an external drive anyway. I have a seagate 100MB
external hard drive thatb I carry with me to have access to currently
used most important files but I have an extra HD that is 300GB (ATA/
133 HDD) that I will get an enclsoure for to use it externally to back
up. Last enclosure I got - it was with usb - was a pain to remove and
use for another HD and so I am going to get one with room that I can
just place the drive in w/o having to put the screws.

Thanks for bringing up about eSATA. That got me into reading a lot
inlcduign http://www.enterprisestoragemanagement.com/faq/esata.shtml
and now I know what enclosure I should buy.




Posted by Pierre Asselin on September 5, 2007, 9:09 pm
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> Most 2.5" drives still have 12.5 ms access time, whether 5400 rpm or
> 7200 rpm. The 7200 rpm drive may have a faster transfer speed. If
> you want 2.5" performance, you have to go with Seagate's corporate
> (blade-server market) 10,000 rpm drives, available as of December 2004
> in 36 GB and 73 GB versions as U320 SCSI -- but I've heard they've
> since been adapted to SATA-II/300. They have 4.9 and 4.5 ms access
> time and transfer speed unequaled among mechanical 2.5 inch drives,
> last I heard. Of course, there are the solid-state hard-
> drives...bring money!

I would be careful about putting a server drive in a laptop. You
will get higher performance but also higher power consumption and
perhaps louder noise. Also, notebook drives can be idled and
restarted but server drives are meant to be left on.

Best to check the drive manufacturer's web site before ordering.

--
pa at panix dot com

Posted by amandaf37 on September 6, 2007, 11:48 am
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On Sep 5, 6:09 pm, p...@see.signature.invalid (Pierre Asselin) wrote:
> > Most 2.5" drives still have 12.5 ms access time, whether 5400 rpm or
> > 7200 rpm. The 7200 rpm drive may have a faster transfer speed. If
> > you want 2.5" performance, you have to go with Seagate's corporate
> > (blade-server market) 10,000 rpm drives, available as of December 2004
> > in 36 GB and 73 GB versions as U320 SCSI -- but I've heard they've
> > since been adapted to SATA-II/300. They have 4.9 and 4.5 ms access
> > time and transfer speed unequaled among mechanical 2.5 inch drives,
> > last I heard. Of course, there are the solid-state hard-
> > drives...bring money!
>
> I would be careful about putting a server drive in a laptop. You
> will get higher performance but also higher power consumption and
> perhaps louder noise. Also, notebook drives can be idled and
> restarted

>but server drives are meant to be left on.

That makes sense. Thanks.

>
> Best to check the drive manufacturer's web site before ordering.
>
> --
> pa at panix dot com



Posted by Barry Watzman on September 6, 2007, 2:19 pm
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It's kind of a moot point; there are not that many "server drives" made
in 2.5" size anyway.


Pierre Asselin wrote:

>
> I would be careful about putting a server drive in a laptop. You
> will get higher performance but also higher power consumption and
> perhaps louder noise. Also, notebook drives can be idled and
> restarted but server drives are meant to be left on.
>
> Best to check the drive manufacturer's web site before ordering.
>

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